S3 | Part Two | Finding Heidi: Endgame, Episode Nine - Dark Secrets

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What triggered Ryan Wolfe to head to the Auckland High Court on July 29, 2026?

Unknown 0:02
On the last episode of Guilt. James is dead. James Turner is dead. I got a phone call this morning and I thought, I wonder what this could be. But it wasn't James. It was his sister Frankie. And she simply just said, Hey Ryan, James died this morning. I remember Father saying many years ago that bones were found. It was after the phone call, I was thinking about it. But he meant to say that she was put in either a toolbox or a tackle box, a fishing tackle box, and reburied.
Unknown 0:57
I said to him, I put him with a question. I said, mate, did you really deal to those Swedes, brother? And when he got out of the car, just tell me one thing, where is she? He knew exactly who I was talking about. I know shit that nobody wants to come out in the open. And of all of us, I know it all. From Brevity Studios, I'm Ryan Wolfe. And this is Guilt.
Ryan Wolfe 1:24
That's got to be her. I'm just, I just feel like that's her. Good morning. It is 4.30 on July the 29th, 2026. And I'm driving right now to the Auckland High Court because today is probably one of the most important days in the history of the legal case of David Tamahere and Heidi and Irvine because today I believe we're going to hear what the Crown's decision has been whether they are going to retry him after the Supreme Court quashed his convictions. So it's been a few months now since that decision came. And, you know, it's my understanding that apparently the police aren't really interested in pursuing a retrial, but ultimately it is the Crown's decision. So yeah, this can affect me fairly massively too, because if they decide today there's no retrial, then that's the end of the road legally. And it also means that episodes that I have had to have removed will be able to go back up live. It means going forward from here, I don't have to worry about any handcuffs anymore.
Ryan Wolfe 3:10
stopping me saying what I need to say in the podcast in relation to David Tomahenny. Yeah, so I have no idea what to expect today. My brain tells me it makes no sense to do a retrial. Half the people have passed away, the witnesses. You know, it doesn't really make any sense. So much time has passed. But At the same time, I've been wrong now so many times when it comes to these court decisions. So I don't know. It could be a coin flip. But anyway, I will talk to you later on once we know what's happening here. And I mean, if there was to be a retrial, while it would be a little bit annoying for me in terms of my content having to be remaining down for probably another year or so. It would be incredibly interesting. Can you imagine a retrial at this point? Would the defense pursue a completely different defense? For example, a new suspect. Time will tell.
Ryan Wolfe 4:29
This case is unique in a number of ways. It was the first double murder conviction in New Zealand where there was no body and no murder weapon. Remember, at the time of David Tamahiti's original conviction, Urban's body had not been found. and it is now also unique in that it is the longest running active case in New Zealand criminal history. What this means for me is that there are almost two cases running in parallel. My own, which focuses on the case historically, what happened way back in 1989, and then the current case, what is happening today with David Tamahede's ongoing appeal. past or present. I'm constantly being pulled from one side to the other. And today, I'm back in the present, off to the Auckland High Court, with a potentially monumental decision coming. And the big question, will there be a retrial of David Tamahere?
Ryan Wolfe 5:31
I arrive at court and wait outside with a smattering of other key journalists from New Zealand media. Just before 9am, a small car pulls up outside and I hear someone whisper, I think that's David. The throng of reporters rush over towards the car and swamp him with microphones the moment his feet land on solid ground. For me, that's not my style and I hang back. I'll wait for my chance to have a chat to David privately, if the opportunity presents itself. Eventually, the doors to the court open and we all make our way through security and up to the relevant courtroom for the hearing. Today, the hearing will be presided over by a single judge, Justice Matthew Downes.

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