S3 | Part Two | Finding Heidi: Endgame, Episode Six - Hair in the Sand

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What happened to Heidi Paakkonen and Sven Urban Hoglin in 1989?

Greg Cody 0:03
on the last episode of Guilt. I hope I've got her in that box there for you. And if it's still there, be marvellous. Now, now I think about it, knowing all this you're telling me, now, it probably is her.
Ryan Wolfe 0:20
I'm going to go meet this guy that found these bones and buried them and find out what the actual truth to this thing is. Hold on tight. This is crazy stuff.
Pierre Larquet 0:42
I said to him, I put him with a question, I said, mate, did you really deal to those Swedes, brother?
And when he got out of the car, just tell me one thing, where is she? He knew exactly who I was talking about. I know shit that nobody wants to come out and have me open. And of all of us, I know it all.
Ryan Wolfe 1:03
From Brevity Studios, I'm Ryan Wolfe. And this is guilt. That's got to be her. I'm just I just feel like that's her
Ryan Wolfe 1:24
At the end of the last episode, I had just picked up the phone and the detective in charge of operations for Operation Stockholm had answered. Finally, after all these months, am I about to get the answer? Have they completed the search? And more importantly, have they found anything? I won't be sharing my conversation with this detective, but I will share the content of it. Her first words to me are, hey, so yeah, we did that job and unfortunately didn't find anything. Those 12 words are like a sucker punch to the guts. Didn't find anything. So what, you went in there, I ask, half in a daze. And she responds, Yep, we did. And we found it wasn't nearly as difficult as we feared it might be. We didn't encounter any resistance.
Ryan Wolfe 2:15
So we did a lot of prep, a lot of planning, and on the day things ran quite smoothly. But unfortunately the witness who discovered the skeleton who we took with us and we did everything physically possible to protect his identity on the day. Look, because of his advanced age, he just got quite confused when we got there, and he couldn't pin down the exact spot. And that was our fear, that it could become a bit of a needle in a haystack situation. As you can imagine, a lot has changed in 30 years in those dunes, so things look a lot different since he found that skeleton. So, we were there for most of the day, and we had specialist search with us, but yeah, we found nothing. But, as I said, everything was against us in terms of the time that's elapsed since he buried that skeleton, the way that beach has changed, and potentially there's been some man-made interference and changes in that area as well, plus the vegetation has changed over time.
Ryan Wolfe 3:17
But look, it was interesting and we were all pretty excited about it, but at the end of the day, we came away with nothing other than to say, yes, we tried. My reply, but just to be clear, you guys, you agree with me in terms of the witness credibility and the fact that he did find something there. She says, oh, absolutely. Yes, we have no doubt about the witness's credibility. He was very genuine. And to be clear, we had a search warrant and we put a lot into this and we appreciate that you shared this with us. We really do. And if you come across anything else along the way, we're always keen to hear about it. Oh, my God. Well, um... I just got off the phone just now with detective and they executed the search warrant on the Tamahiti property.
Ryan Wolfe 4:45
They took the witness with them, the one that reburied the skeleton and unfortunately they weren't able to locate anything. The police are just as gutted as I am. Based on the description and everything, and the details, the same as me, they had high hopes that this could be Heidi Parkinen, who remains. But given the location, the passage of time, sand, storms, and unfortunately it's the memory of the person who found the skeleton yeah they weren't able to locate it it's also possible that it may have been moved I just like right now I'm just like it's just this is going to be the end of this is going to be the end of the line now there's nowhere to go with this now fuck I've been fighting to get this skeleton fighting to get the police to search for the skeleton for almost a year now and I've kept media quiet I've not told anyone you know because I wanted to make sure this didn't leak and the right thing happened oh man

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