S6 | E27 | The Debrief with the Guilt Team

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Ryan Wolfe 0:26
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Hello and welcome back to The Debrief. Before we dive in, I want to introduce the full team on the line today. I'm Bella, the community manager here at Gilt, and I'm joined as always by our host, Ryan Wolfe, and our site lead, Jacob Saffel. Hey, hey. In this episode, we may be discussing digital files and maps on screen. So if you're listening only, we'll do our best to describe things for you. Now in the latest episode of Guilt, Ryan spoke with Bob Sample and a neighbour to Paeban. It's the first time we've really sort of broken down or even said the word serial killer in a long time in relation to Derek Sam. So Ryan, after speaking to that neighbour at Paeban and speaking with Bob, where do you sit in relation to Derek Sam and the word serial killer?
Ryan Wolfe 1:32
Yeah, the big question, right? Straight into it. Yeah, and I would say as well, I felt like on this episode, because we're getting to near the end of the season two, that it was worth sort of going back over this and really looking at it again. And so this episode felt like a little bit of a pivot and a little bit of a, you know, to what we've been doing. Um, you know, because like I talked, talked about before, sometimes, you know, you get, you forget, forget some of the things that are known, you know, from the past and the original case. Right. And sometimes I think it's important to go back and refresh yourself on, on that stuff. I think, um, I find it fascinating the, you know, I guess the sort of concept of the blackout, right?
Ryan Wolfe 2:20
Like the alcohol blackout. And, you know, when I was researching this episode more, I think I actually upskilled my knowledge a bit about this because, you know, growing up, you know, in my life, you know, a blackout as we would describe it, like as a teenager and, you know, as a young man would be, you drink too much and you pass out. And that's, that would be the extent. And then you can't remember anything, right? Not that you'd be functional, you know, I wouldn't like have a blackout and then continue with my night, you know, that that's not the way it works. And I felt, and I thought, well, that's probably my experience is probably how it works for 99% of the population. Right. Or no, no, Bella's shaking her head here.
I'm shaking my head. I know people who black out and you know, they don't do violent things granted, but. Yeah, they're upright and walking with no recollection of it.

How do the hosts introduce the concept of serial killers?

Usually very apologetic the next day.
Ryan Wolfe 3:16
Yeah, well, I mean, that's interesting. I mean, okay, I don't know what percentage of people do this, but I guess it kind of varies both ways, right? So, you know, I think that, you know, when I was going through it and looking at it and then looking at some of the historical, you know, serial killers and the fact that, you know, alcohol is actually a fairly common, is fairly commonly involved with some of these things, that it can be something that brings down that inhibitor, right? you know, that lowers the gate that maybe lets that person out. And I thought... know when you're looking back and it's difficult now right like bob had mentioned that that he he says he he was sure that derek was having some beers when selena um went missing but it was hard to know if he was confused with with jessica and or if he was actually with selena i sort of took it as meaning selena but it could be wrong there but um
Ryan Wolfe 4:14
You know, if that were to be true, then we know he was drinking the night Jessica disappeared. I understand he was drinking the night that Anne disappeared at Henry Neal's 40th birthday party. How much he'd been drinking sort of varies depending on who you ask.

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