Punters Controversial Hot Takes | Part Two

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Happy Hour with Lucy & Nikki 54 min 3 speakers 3 chapters transcribed 3 months ago
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What controversial hot takes do Lucy and Nikki discuss?

Nikki Westcott 0:02
A listener production. This is Happier with Lucy and Nikki. And if you're easily offended, then this might not be for you.
Unknown 0:17
Most people are not self-aware. They just sound self-aware online because you can say things like, I have attachment issues, I'm emotionally unavailable, and I'm working on my triggers, and it works like a get-out-of-jail-free card. But most of the time, people are just repeating language they've absorbed from TikTok podcasts or therapy content without actually changing their behaviour or patterns. Emotional intelligence is how you behave when you're triggered, how you handle conflict, how you show up consistently, not how well you can describe yourself in psychological terms.
Lucy Jackson 0:47
Cheers, babes. We're going to have a happy hour with Lucy and Nikki, the real life shit you only discuss over a drink. But before we start, a little disclaimer.
Unknown 0:53
So today we're here for Controversial Hot Takes Part 2. Just a quick moment though. Who would have thought when we made that intro... We'd still be saying it. That we'd still be saying it because we made that on the fly.
Lucy Jackson 1:08
Oh, he's so true.
Unknown 1:10
I never thought that. I don't think we can ever change it though. Fuck no. I love it. But I'm saying I just never would have thought that we'd still be doing it now. I know, babe. That's crazy, hey? Seven years? And do eight this year. I believe in September that podcast turns eight or seven.
Lucy Jackson 1:28
Was Jagger eight? Seven. Jagger's eight. I'm pretty sure.
Unknown 1:31
I also think back to the logo. So when we got our friend Kim to draw the logo, which is the hand and the wine glass. Still just so iconic. Iconic. Guys, don't forget, if you do want more of our unhinged banter. Well, it gets even more unhinged over on our close friends. You can join. The link is in our bio. We just get a bit rogue behind the paywall, don't we, babe?
Lucy Jackson 1:53
Well, yeah, I think we're just more comfortable to spill a bit more tea because, you know, not everyone has access to it. So if you do want access, jump on. Come join us on our close friends. Yeah. Anyway, let's get into this episode. Okay, part two, let's kick this off, baby. Number one, all relationships are transactional. Every relationship is an exchange. You give something, you get something back. Time, attention, safety, status, comfort, validation, even pure love still has conditions. If you stop getting something back, most relationships quietly collapse. The idea of a selfless relationship is comforting, but it's not realistic.
Unknown 2:34
I also think a selfless relationship is dangerous because if you are someone that's giving everything to someone and then you're not getting anything in exchange, then that's just like not nice. You're kind of like a nun. They give everything for everyone, for God mainly. But like you can't fill everyone else's cup and not get your cup filled at all.
Lucy Jackson 2:54
I think absolutely. Fucking oath, babe. Imagine that. Yeah.
Unknown 2:58
I think...
Lucy Jackson 2:59
At the same time, though, I do think you can get a lot of joy from giving. Like, I think that definitely is like a love language. Like, I think there's definitely a lot you can get from that. But like, brother, you're getting nothing back. Who, like, what kind of cold-hearted person are you with? You know what I mean?
Unknown 3:17
Yeah, do you know, you'll love this because this is a homage to you. Oh, what? Last night I, like, got a bit drunk, which is quite all. Oh, really? And people were, like, asking questions and, like, what's the nicest thing anyone's ever done for you? And I was like, oh, when Nikki organized me a surprise party in COVID.
Oh.
Lucy Jackson 3:34
They can talk about it now. Illegal, baby. Illegal and thoughtful. Illegal and thoughtful. That was so fun. So fun. I wish I could tell all the nitty gritty details, but you simply can't.
Unknown 3:43
I think we have before, babe. Honestly, there was only 10 people there and we were in the middle of nowhere. I'm pretty sure we were socially distancing.
Lucy Jackson 3:50
We were literally in the middle of nowhere. Literally. There was no COVID there.
Unknown 3:53
We were so paranoid that drones and shit were going to fly over because I think there was like one extra person there.

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