Vite, Docker, Hurricane Update, Board Games, and Pixar Movies
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Why is Canada populated at all? Why are there people in Canada? I don't understand. Long time no talk.
Uh, yeah, I know you skipped last week.
I skipped last week.
Bitch.
So that's funny.
We had to replace you with someone. So I wasn't here talking to myself.
Yeah, that sounds more fun, really. I'm sure people enjoyed that. You're welcome, everybody. I'll skip more. Not really. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I feel like if I threaten that, people are going to freak out. Sometimes I do just think, like, is this the slow fade? Am I not going to disappear? I'm just going to slowly fade out of the internet and all of my friends.
Adam, this is literally the guy that made that bingo card of our podcast. Oh, no. This is one of the things I say. This is one of the things I say. Oh, let's try new stuff.
Should I leave the internet? Yeah, let's try new material. Man, I don't want to go back to the bingo card, but I really do need you to catch me up on lots of things. It's just one of the things I need from you in this relationship.
Has anything happened? I don't know. What's new?
Yeah, maybe nothing.
That's fine.
That's actually great.
I guess the main thing was Veet finally announced their round, which they closed a long time ago, but I guess they didn't go public.
Yeah, so how's that work? I mean, in the sense that Evan... Is doing a lot of things. So Vite is like a company?
Well, they established a new company called Void Zero, and their goal is to make a unified JavaScript tool chain.
Okay.
Which I think if puts them in the same category as Bunn, more or less, I think that's almost... Near overlap. Like computing. Minus the runtime. Bun? I think Bun is a superset in a lot of ways. I think Bun would consider, even if they're not focusing on the same things right now, I think Bun would consider everything Void Zero is doing as something they eventually want to do. I don't think Void Zero is going to build a JavaScript runtime. I think that's outside their scope.
Okay. So Bun has executed really well. Are they going to have similar business models? Or have either of them picked a business model?
They've both raised money. I went on Prime Stream a bit to talk about this a bit because I'll just give you the spiel real quick. So with a lot of these projects, these open source projects that are very free and fundamentally need to be open source and free, the question of what's the business model always comes up. And that's a valid question. But the point I made was I don't know if we talked about this already, but these are venture scale companies, very different than a traditional company. The example I gave was if search engines didn't exist and someone invented a search engine today, people would ask what's the business model. And the company would be like, Oh yeah, we'll give you like 10 free searches a day.
And then if you want to go over that, we'll charge you $10 a month. Right. Um, and you would probably make a lot of money doing that, especially if it's as good as Google is. And there was no other search engine. Uh, but it would never be a product that every single person in the world used.
Yeah.
Right. There's natural friction with, with the paid tier. And eventually someone would build, a version that's not paid. Uh, and if you do build the version that's not paid and everyone in the world starts to use it, you now have this opportunity to build a trillion dollar ads business. Right. Which is really, really hard to imagine ahead of time. Like it's so hard to imagine like every single thing, if we capture a hundred percent market, like what are the business models? Like none of us would have come up with that. Google just serves as not on their own properties, but like across the whole internet and other sites, like, uh, it's like a giant, giant business that came out of this thing. And it feels like really random and unrelated.
So with these companies, it's the question isn't really what's a business model. The question is, do they have a big enough goal? In Bun's case, it's every piece of JavaScript ever executed should happen inside Bun. That's a really big goal. I can see that. I can see that potentially. Same with Void Zero. Like their goal is all JavaScript builds
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