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Trump’s on-again, off-again negotiations with Iran

13 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What recent events have unfolded in the US-Iran negotiations?

0.031 - 6.16 Cara Jensen-McKinnon

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36.354 - 60.131 Matt Bevan

This podcast was produced on the lands of the Wabakal and Gadigal people. G'day, Matt Bevan here. This is If You're Listening. If You're Listening. I'm officially back from a family camping trip where I was fortunate enough to be without internet, so I had the opportunity to relax and check out of the world and the news for a few days.

60.992 - 74.976 Matt Bevan

That being said, every time anyone arrived at the campsite from the outside world, I kind of grabbed them by the collar and demanded updates on what was going on in Iran, so perhaps I wasn't as disconnected as I should have been.

74.956 - 98.432 Matt Bevan

When I surfaced properly and returned to the basement, I was not all that surprised to find out that ceasefire negotiations in the US-Iran war had started, happened, and fallen apart again. Also, the US president is criticizing not only NATO, but also the Pope, apparently. I don't think he's doing a very good job. He likes crime, I guess.

98.412 - 115.935 Matt Bevan

Now, supervising producer Cara Jensen-McKinnon also had a short break, but she's been back longer than I have and has been spending that time getting up to speed with exactly what's happened with these US-Iran negotiations. And she's going to tell me sort of the tick-tock, the rundown on what happened.

116.536 - 125.848 Matt Bevan

We've also got a bunch of great questions about the war that you've sent through to our email, if you're listening at abc.net.au, which we will answer for you today. G'day, Cara.

Chapter 2: How has Trump's social media activity influenced negotiations?

350.306 - 356.855 Cara Jensen-McKinnon

Who knows? A lot of people have argued that the threat to kill an entire civilisation is genocidal.

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357.236 - 380.209 Matt Bevan

He would argue that this was a negotiating problem. You know, I dialed it up to 11, 12, 13 in order to make it clear to them that the ramifications of not speaking to me would be so serious. Whether or not it was a bluff, we'll never know because they ended up negotiating. They did. And Trump would potentially just argue that, you know, I was never going to really do that.

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380.229 - 390.143 Matt Bevan

I didn't mean that I was going to destroy Iranian civilization. It was part of the art of the deal. Chapter three, just threaten. Threaten to kill everyone. Threaten to kill everybody. Yeah. I'm sure I read that and had a deal.

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390.363 - 406.722 Cara Jensen-McKinnon

Fortunately for the people of Iran, never came to that because Iran said they were willing to come to the table. So on Wednesday morning, the 8th of April, this is 90 minutes before the deadline that Trump had set. He agrees to suspend attacks on Iran for two weeks. Israel also agrees to the ceasefire.

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406.742 - 429.249 Cara Jensen-McKinnon

Iran's foreign minister agrees to stop defensive operations and promises safe passage through the Strait of Hormuz. And they announced that these peace talks will begin. Trump posts on Truth Social subject to the Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing to the complete, immediate and safe opening of the Strait of Hormuz. I agree to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks.

429.77 - 442.787 Cara Jensen-McKinnon

We received a 10 point proposal from Iran and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate. He then said that the two-week military pause would allow agreements to be finalized and that the military conflict is close to being resolved.

443.347 - 455.743 Cara Jensen-McKinnon

Now, this 10-point plan hasn't been officially confirmed by the U.S., but Iranian state broadcasters have claimed they wanted a complete cessation of the war on Iraq, Lebanon, and Yemen.

455.723 - 478.39 Cara Jensen-McKinnon

and a complete and permanent cessation on the war in Iran with no time limit, a reopening of the strait, full payment of compensation for the reconstruction costs to Iran, a commitment to lifting sanctions, and Iran would fully commit to not seeking possession of any nuclear weapons, the immediate ceasefire would take effect on all fronts immediately upon the approval of the above conditions.

478.37 - 488.021 Cara Jensen-McKinnon

Obviously, this is just their first offer and it was always unlikely from the very beginning that this was going to be approved, but at least it was a starting point for negotiations.

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