Bernie Sanders Goes Scorched Earth on Trump; Drops Bombshell Plan to Fight Back

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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

Jennifer Welch 0:04
All right, joining me today on IHIP News is a longtime progressive champion in Vermont, Senator Bernie Sanders. Senator Sanders, thank you so much for joining me. We have a lot to discuss, so let's just rip into it. Donald Trump is on his way to China right now with an entourage of billionaires whose combined net worth exceeds $870 billion. And I thought, hmm, I wonder, out of all of the Americans that I know of, who might have something to say about this? And I thought about you.
Bernie Sanders 0:38
Well, I think what Trump's friends on Air Force One are telling us is Number one, these are guys who are pushing artificial intelligence and robotics. So I would ask the American people to take a deep breath and think, do you believe that Elon Musk and the rest of these guys are staying up nights worrying about what AI and robotics is going to do to working families throughout the country. Is that really their goal? Are they coming up with a new vaccine, a new medicine to improve lives? Between you and me, I don't think so. I think these very, very wealthy and powerful people want to become

How does Bernie Sanders view the impact of billionaires on American taxpayers?

Bernie Sanders 1:20
even wealthier and more powerful, and that should concern us. Having said that, I hope very much, as someone who is concerned about the impact of AI in many respects, I would hope that President Trump and President Xi will talk about the existential threat about what might happen if AI escapes human control and what that will mean. Is there many scientists who worry about that? And I think there needs to be a coming together of China and the United States, other countries to prevent that.
Jennifer Welch 1:56
And what do you think AI means to a lot of working class jobs?
Bernie Sanders 2:02
Good. Thanks for asking it. I got involved in this, Jennifer, not because I am a big tech guy. I am not. I can barely turn on the television in my house. But I'm looking around and I'm reading. And I'm beginning to sense that we are looking at the most consequential transformation of society in human history. And I'm looking at my colleagues here in the Congress and saying, obviously, there's going to be a lot of discussion about what this means, right?

What concerns does Bernie Sanders express about AI and robotics?

Bernie Sanders 2:35
wrong all right so what are the issues that we are concerned about number one as i've just said should we worry very much that a handful of the richest people in the world are pushing uh this transformational technology what are their goals are they really concerned about the betterment of human beings i think not so that's the first uh red light that i think we have got to be aware of number two what does it mean economically well nobody exactly knows to be honest with you But there are estimates out there that over the next 10 years, you know, tens and tens of millions of jobs will be displaced. All right. Just think about it for a moment. Mr. Bezos, one of the richest guys in the world, right?
Bernie Sanders 3:20
He is investing. He wants to put together a fund of $100 billion to automate factories. Got it? You know what that means? It means that robots will be doing the manufacturing in the United States. Millions of jobs will be lost. We're looking at driverless vehicles spreading all over the country. There's millions of truck drivers losing their jobs, cab drivers, Uber drivers, and other drivers. So what do we do? In terms of young college graduates getting harder and harder to find jobs, the legal profession, accounting, all of those professions are under attack from AI.

How will AI affect working-class jobs according to Bernie Sanders?

Bernie Sanders 3:59
Does anybody have a serious plan on how to deal with that? That's one issue. Another issue is the issue of privacy. All right. AI now in companies like Palantir have the capability to put together all kinds of information about you. We are in danger of losing every shred of privacy that we have. We are seeing right now kids getting hooked on AI bots. who are now their best friends and sometimes with disastrous results. But take it a step further. Not only the emotional health of young people, what kind of society are we moving to when we spend our times with agents on the screen and not with other human beings? That's a big deal. And then you have the issue of, as I mentioned, the existential threat.

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