Trump Ally Speaks Out Against Him on His Mental Decline "He's Out of His Mind"
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What insights does Timothy Snyder provide about Trump's mental state?
I would like to welcome Timothy David Snyder. He is a historian specializing in the history of Central and Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union and studies tyranny closely. He is the author of On Tyranny, On Freedom and More. Timothy, welcome. Before we get started, I want to put up some reporting that came out today from the Daily Beast. Kylie, will you pop this up? Trump ally shocked at president's psychological state in private meeting. A key European ally of Donald Trump said he was traumatized by a meeting where the U.S. president's psychological state came across as dangerous, according to diplomats with knowledge of the conversations. And this is interesting. the prime minister of Slovakia, Robert Fico.
Have you seen this or with your relationships with people in Europe, what do you have to say about this?
I hadn't seen it, but it's an interesting thing for FICO to be saying because FICO is a right wing populist and is very much aligned with Mr. Trump on pretty much every issue. So it's not somebody who would be out to get Mr. Trump on the contrary. So that's I haven't seen it and I have no personal knowledge, but that's a very striking bit of reporting for that reason.
Really interesting. I said he thought the president was out of his mind. OK, I follow you on Twitter and on Instagram, and I really liked you had a post about I am assuming you're referencing. There was an article in The Atlantic recently where the journalist was like, After a long time, I finally come to the conclusion that this is fascism. And you said, OK, listen, instead of wasting the time acknowledging the obvious, let's fight it. Can you please elaborate on that?
I'm happy to, but I'm going to do it from the position where I've always been, which is that whatever you think this evil is, once you recognize it as an evil, you're responsible to be doing something about it. And any discussion that we're having about the nature of the evil is important insofar as it instructs then the tactics that we choose and the strategy that we have. That's the point. That's the whole point, right?
How do European leaders perceive Trump's psychological decline?
What I'm worried about here is that there have been a number of folks who have essentially made the claim that everybody who says that this is a radical evil, for example, fascism, Those people are just off their rocker. We don't have to pay attention to them. And therefore, and here comes the dangerous part, we can do nothing. And we've lost a ton of time. And I think we've disempowered some otherwise very capable people by telling that story. That like all the people who are warning that Trump would someday use violence, et cetera, those people are crazy. We should ignore them. We've lost 10 years. I mean, I don't want to over-dramatize this, but we've lost 10 years where a lot of good organizing could have been done because people used an ideological debate as a reason to set aside.
And so now what I'm worried about, and I hope I'm wrong, Jennifer, what I'm worried about now is that now that it's just so transparent that there was something to worry about, whatever you want to name it, and there was a reason to use serious terms in describing that danger, that now those very same people are going to say, okay, I accept that it's a very serious danger. I accept that it's fascist. I hope I'm wrong, but then that becomes their form of action. But that's not action. If you recognize now that it's fascism, that means that for the last 10 years, you probably weren't doing enough. That means you had a lot of time, lost time to make up for. What I would urge is that Because there was that article in Atlantic, but there have been a bunch of statements like this, and there's about to be a bunch more.
What I would urge people to do is to first get involved in their communities, first join some kind of organization, and then rather than counting on confessing and seeming like a good person because you're confessing a mistake, rather than doing that, tell your followers how you are engaged in your community. Give them an idea of what they can do.
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Chapters
5 chapters
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What insights does Timothy Snyder provide about Trump's mental state?
0:04–2:20
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How do European leaders perceive Trump's psychological decline?
2:20–8:20
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What does Timothy Snyder say about the rise of fascism in America?
8:20–19:20
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How can individuals effectively respond to political challenges?
19:20–20:48
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What role do community organizations play in political engagement?
20:48–21:46
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