Am I Actually AuDHD?? Chatting Neurodivergence with Dr Monique Mitchelson

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What is the guest’s neurodivergent background and how were they diagnosed?

Abbie Chatfield 0:00
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Abbie Chatfield 0:23
It's a lot, isn't it? Everyone, I'm really excited for this very selfish episode of mine, all about ADHD, trauma, and also autism, as well, with the amazing Dr. Monique Mitchelson. She is a neurodivergent clinical psychologist, which we love because we need some lived experience understanding when it comes to the things of the mind, you know, and also the lived experience of being a neurodivergent person. It's kind of Hard to explain or understand sometimes. Um, she's the host of the Neurodivergent Woman podcast, which we love. So, Monique, welcome.
Dr Monique Mitchelson 1:00
Thank you so much. I'm super excited.
Abbie Chatfield 1:03
I'm so excited for this very, very selfish, selfish episode. Like I was saying, I just treat yourself. Yeah, I deserve it, diva. Okay. I want to run through kind of the experience of being neurodivergent, but I kind of want to focus as well on maybe the combination of autism and ADHD and trauma and how all those things intersect and you are the perfect person for that. So where are you on the spectrum? Where would you say or what's not that it's a it's a location, you're not like I'm right off the off the corner of Third Street. I'm right off the off the corner of Third Street.
Dr Monique Mitchelson 1:36
Precisely at one thousand eight hundred and ninety five degrees longitude. But so you have autism and ADHD? Yes. I'm uh late diagnosed. So I was diagnosed in my 30s. I'm autistic. Um I'm ADHD combined type, so both hyperactive and inattentive. Same. Um, and I also have a math learning disability called dyscalculia, um, which commonly co occurs in autism and ADHD, but it's less well known than dyslexia, which which is the reading learning disability.
Abbie Chatfield 2:12
Okay, so what's just a quick sidebar? What does that interact? Because it's like here is like where the w the letters are jumbled. Yes. Is it like the numbers are jumbled?
Dr Monique Mitchelson 2:20
It's sort of like the numbers don't mean anything to you. So you can see them, but they kind of disappear from your head. So if you're trying to add, subtract, multiply, or do maths. Um, you can't hold it in your mind. It's like there's a complete blank spot and it's hard to know like what it means, if that makes sense. And it's due to um usually differences in the brain.
Abbie Chatfield 2:44
Yeah. And so with I mean with neurodivergence and also with that learning disability, you're now Got a doctorate. So just people might be wondering, you know, how did you and with late diagnosis, how did you get through all of those years of higher education, very difficult maths as well. It's not exactly easy peasy. How did you get through that without diagnoses and I'm presuming without being given coping mechanisms.
Dr Monique Mitchelson 3:11
Yeah, um, I think it was honestly my autism. Um, so one of the gifts of autism is perseverance.
Unknown 3:20
Yes.
Dr Monique Mitchelson 3:21
And just really kind of having an all-encompassing focus on something and really kind of persevering until you reach your goal. Um, and so yeah, like when I was younger, being autistic and ADHD, I Wasn't maybe as interested in people, but then when I got to high school, I started getting bullied and negative social experiences. So in a very autistic fashion, I was like, I'm going to study people. Yes. I'm going to go learn psychology and learn how people think and work. Um, and then I'll have it figured out. Yeah, you can figure the people out. Yes, exactly. Problem solve them. That's amazing. That's amazing. See, there are See,
Abbie Chatfield 3:59
there are many, many, many good things about being neurodivergent. That's one of them with autism. You can get to the bottom of anything. And AHD two with a hyperfixation.
Dr Monique Mitchelson 4:07
Exactly. You'll
Abbie Chatfield 4:08
figure it all out. So I wanted to ask you first and foremost, and I think this is the most question that I get in my DMs, and that also that I have in my mind as well. So I don't know how to answer the question.

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