ROXANE GAY: How Do We Protect Women's Rights?
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It's a lot, isn't it? Wow, what an honour to talk to you, Roxane Gay. Thank you so much for your time. Welcome to It's A Lot. There's so much that I could talk to you about that I was saying to my producer, Amy, before. It's like going to a high-quality buffet. Like we were kind of panicking before this episode because we were thinking, what do we talk to her about in a way of, you know, do I get the mousse or the cheesecake at the dessert buffet? Like everything that you have written and said is – so prolific and poignant and insightful. So welcome to the podcast and let's get started. My first question for you is a question that I've had for a lot of different feminists that I've had on the podcast and I'm looking to you for some guidance in this.
That is about the regression of feminism in the past decade or so, but particularly I would say in the past decade two or three years even just societally with the rise of the manosphere and with the stripping of roe v wade and even in in my work i've noticed much more extreme violent misogynistic language and abuse and harassment and the media how do you see these changes, how have they impacted society as a whole tangibly? And do you see any hope of us undoing that regression with our current strategy?
Well, these things are cyclical. So yes, we are going to find ways to overcome this regression. We are going to resume making progress because history has shown us this. But I don't know that our current strategies or lack of strategy is going to be the way forward. Right now, we see a lot of passivity and a lot of, let's listen to both sides. But when one side doesn't believe women are people who deserve rights, who don't believe women should have bodily autonomy, who don't believe that women should be able to have no contest or no-fault divorces, we're not really... What is there to talk about with these people? What kind of common ground is there to find?
Right.
a lot of times people treat bigotry as a valid perspective. And I am simply at a place in my life where I'm no longer interested in doing that. And so we really need to make clear what's at stake. We need to remember that women are being put into, once again, an untenable position, that we absolutely deserve equity and equality, and that we are not going to simply smile and be relegated back to submission and docility simply because it is the preference of men in power.
Absolutely. What strategy do you think would work? Because I feel like at the moment there is a divide. There is the passivity. There is the apathy. There is a leaning into tradwifedom or the soft girl life or being a stay-at-home girlfriend and relinquishing financial autonomy. And that's seen as aspirational at the moment. Mm-hmm. Then on the other side, we have feminists who are digging in deeper, getting angrier because we're seeing this change happening on the other side or even within our own quarters. We're losing people. We're losing soldiers to this soft girl tradwifedom, I guess, because it's easier than facing the reality of rights being stripped away. But how do we... Get shit back, basically.
Because I have hope for the pendulum swing. I am only 30. So I go, okay, I've kind of, I've seen it. I've only seen it swinging one way. I kind of, I came to consciousness when it was bad and then it's gotten better. And I wonder how do we push that little pendulum the other way altogether when we are so divided and we're up against algorithms and trends and the horrors outside of feminism that are causing people to kind of turn away?
Yes. Well, I think that there is a lot of delusion happening in terms of women who are choosing the trad wife or soft life.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–6:01
2
What is the state of feminism in 2026?
6:01–20:12
3
How do glamorized lifestyles like 'trad wife' affect women's rights?
20:12–22:48
4
What strategies can help address the regression of women's rights?
22:48–36:58
5
How does media literacy impact women's choices today?
36:58–44:47