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Chapter 1: What is the premise of the podcast?
ready one two three patriots gay triets they triets black triets welcome to america's top dei podcast before we get into our petty grievances we have a book that we wrote co-authored together and it's called life is a lazy susan of sandwiches and as you can see here it says jennifer welch and angie sullivan i couldn't do that reverse with the camera to see that but nonetheless
Angie and I kind of feel like it's a manifesto. Yeah. Y'all, our listener, know how nutty we are. My son read it, my oldest son, and he quite enjoyed it. Really? He thought it was fantastic. And so I think our listener would really like the book. Pumps and I have been friends for like 20, over 20 plus years. And so it goes way back.
Way, way back to the very beginning. Pumps, what have you had it with? Okay, what I've had it with, and it's just, it's making me insane, is is that everyone is acting like the separation of church and state does not exist. You've got Pete Hegseth having prayer breakfast with right-wing evangelicals. You've got our state superintendent trying to get public money to pay for private school.
The Supreme Court stopped it, but that's where we're trending. I'm so sick of it. I'm so tired of everybody acting like that Christianity is the foundation of the US government instead of the fact that the reason the United States even exists is to get away from religious restraints and that we're founded on freedom from religion and government.
And I just feel like I'm living in the Twilight Zone.
You know, everybody knows how I feel about these megachurches and evangelical Christianity in particular, and the damage that megachurch culture, which is this prosperity gospel, and evangelical Christianity has done to a large portion of the population is generational, it's cascading, it's insidious, it's horrible.
And the whole evangelical model, the prosperity gospel, you have these people that go to these mega churches and tithe because the pastor tells them that's what Jesus wants them to do. And that they will then be favored by God and they will receive blessings. I remember I had this nut girl that worked for me a long time ago, total Bible thumper. I mean, like off the rails.
She had like three or four kids and she and her husband didn't have that much money at all. And she only worked for me part time and I paid her well. But she said to me one day that, you know, they were scraping up the money together to tithe. And I had given her like a bonus because I just closed out a big interior design job. And it wasn't a whole lot of money. It was a few hundred dollars.
I said, hey, you know, you really did great coming in extra to help me get this closed out. I'm going to give you a little extra cash. And she then said, you know, my husband and I scraped together enough money to tithe. And they went to some whacked out evangelical watered down megachurch where the pastor benefits the most from all of this. Right.
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Chapter 2: What grievances do they have with church and state separation?
a different list.
Yeah, that's a different list. Got it. Okay. All right. Next story. People who refuse to share food are more independent and usually better with money. Study says new research suggests that people who are protective of their food tend to exhibit higher levels of independence and financial discipline.
This personality trait is linked to strong boundaries, goal setting, and an instinct for delayed gratification. And all of you may remember cinnamon roll cake. That's exactly what popped in my head. Which happened at my house the Christmas of 2023. And I had made cinnamon rolls, pop and bake, of course, because I felt like cooking. Right.
And I was eating my cinnamon roll and delaying gratification for the center bite. And I turned to acknowledge one of my children because I'm a doting mother first and foremost. And I turned back around and the center of my cinnamon roll had been eaten despite my guarding and protecting it.
And I will just say anecdotally, listener, that I am more independent than Josh and I am a million times better with my money than Josh is.
Yeah. So that that wins the day. But when I was reading that. after i thought cinnamon roll gate i immediately thought like if i am somewhere and if i was at a table of people and somebody said can i have a bite and the person said no i think i would probably think what an and i agree with the boundaries and all that but i think i would be like i think it's weirder to ask somebody for a bite
I eat a bite of your food all the time. That's different. Like we're at a level where I can say, don't eat that. I don't want you to eat it. Like we don't have any. I guess it depends on whom you want to steal the bite from. I'm with acquaintances and somebody said, can I try that? I would let them. But I would think I don't want you trying my food. I didn't offer it.
I do kind of feel a sense of protection and maybe it's stinginess.
No, I just because I'm thinking like when people that I mean, I don't eat with big groups that I'm not really close with. We get we put it on the little plate and we pass it over.
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Chapter 3: How does evangelical culture affect society?
Let's talk about, because we've gone there, I'm an atheist and I live in the buckle of the Bible Belt, okay? So I- Where do you live? Oklahoma City.
Nice.
Raised an atheist. I mean, just stuck out like a sore thumb. But when I get to the issue of, you talked about Hamas being a death cult, which I concur. I think it's bananas. But I also now, as a person who is not even remotely impacted by religion, I see the aggressions of Israel to combat what happened on October 7th as an overreach and war crimes.
And so I feel like this conversation ends up being framed as, if you speak out against Israel, you're anti-Semitic. And that it's this very black and white narrative that forms. And the fact of the matter is like, of course I oppose Hamas and these horrific Islamic Sharia law style organizations.
But I also completely think Benjamin Netanyahu is a total war criminal that's creating millions of more Hamas. I mean, what I see happening over there is abusive and difficult to comprehend and difficult to watch it and to know that our government funds some of this where you see hospitals blown up. I feel like there's a lot of propaganda in there.
And then to put the burden on these kids, and kids historically have always been anti-war. Back to Vietnam, that's what the college experience is, is you're anti-war and you're radical about it. I feel like the way sometimes this gets framed is it doesn't allow for nuance. What's your take on that?
Again, a lot there. So I think it's impossible not to empathize with people who have empathy for the fact that Gaza now has the greatest concentration of child amputees in the world. This is just horrific. I mean, it's horrific. Supposedly, one in five are in danger of actual starvation. I think Netanyahu, I'm like you, has been terrible for Israel, trying to disassemble the Supreme Court.
If you really look at the records, Netanyahu was supportive of Hamas because he felt if Hamas stayed in power, they'd be less likely to get a two-state solution. His kind of deal with the Israeli electorate was, I am not as democratic, you may not like me, but I'll keep you safe. I've been to Kibbutz Farazah. I went to the Gaza envelope, and all I could think was, all I had was rage.
I'm like, how on earth were Israeli and IDF gunships, helicopter gunships, not on the scene? He didn't keep them safe. He is not a democratic, he's not someone who upholds ideals of democracy over settlements, I am totally empathetic to the notion that Netanyahu has been terrible for Israel.
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Chapter 4: What insights does Professor Scott Galloway provide?
marriage that isn't between a man and a woman that's their singular mission of this school is in to indoctrinate homophobia and this is a do you think they would do you think they would kill those people though this is we're getting a bit far afield here let me put it this way let's agree
I'm with you. I'm really freaked out about the lack that we're the for the first time in America's history, we've taken away rights that had never happened before. It was always granting rights. And I would argue that the the overturn of Roe v. Wade, the thing I really don't like about it the most. Well, there's a lot I don't like about one of the things I don't like about it.
is regardless of what happens to family planning or laws in the United States, anyone who becomes pregnant in my life, I'll have access to family planning because I'm rich. I don't even see this. The most mendacious thing about this, in my view, is not that it's a war on women. I think it's a war on poor women.
Totally. It totally is.
I could live in deepest, reddest Mississippi, and if someone in my life has an unwanted pregnancy, No problem.
Fly to California.
I can get mesofestrone overnight. I have the money and the contacts. Totally. But a 14-year-old black girl who's raped is embarrassed, unsophisticated, doesn't have a lot of education. Mom is working her ass off. Nobody knows she's pregnant until the fifth month. She can't fly to Atlanta. She has to carry that baby to term. So this isn't a war on women, it's a war on poor women.
And this brings up a larger point, and that is what is happening in America is the following, in my view. We're developing a cohort of what I call the transnational oligarch. And that is the top 1.1% have a disproportionate amount of power. The top 10 donors in America give more money than 80% of all donors combined.
And as a result, they're able to implement a series of tax cuts that create deficits. And the really sad part about it is that I'm in the 0.1% and I'm a hardcore Democrat. And what I see amongst my friends is a lot of pearl clutching and no willingness to actually speak out or really do anything that involves risk or sacrifice because of the following.
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Chapter 5: What are the impacts of higher education funding cuts?
Well, I know a lot of these CEOs. I think I tallied it up, and this is bragging, but I think I've worked with 30 of the CMOs or CEOs of the 100 biggest companies in the world. And I think 90% of them wake up in the morning and look in the mirror and say, hello, Mr. or Madam President. I think they all think of themselves as, they are extraordinary leaders.
I think most of them think that at some point, there'll be this overwhelming draft to get them to run for president. But here's the thing. The primary qualification to be president is leadership. And leadership, simply put, is doing the right thing even when it's really hard.
And right now, I'm going to list the number of CEOs who are willing to speak out and say what everyone's saying privately and realize that a lot of the American values that gave them exceptional wealth and opportunities they recognize are under attack right now. So here's the list. Okay, I'm done. There has been such a domino of cowardice in corporate America.
Totally.
Because the short-term incentives are to say, just stay out of his way. Just ignore him. Put out a press release saying you're investing more money. Send a million dollars to his inauguration committee. Buy his wife's lame documentary for $40 million when no one would pay 40 bucks for it. Just stay out of his way.
He's got the attention of a cat chasing a red dot, and we move on, and it's the best thing for shareholder value. At some point, someone is gonna speak up.
The biggest commercial opportunity I've seen in a while is for a great American company, Nike, through the lens of commercials and athletes, to talk about, without mentioning Trump's name, how important our immigrants are in America, to talk about how important our freedoms are, and how we have always erred on the side of giving people due process.
in just how incredibly powerful America has become because of its due process, its rule of law, and its willingness to embrace immigrants and err on the side of generosity and being a loving, generous people to people who are less fortunate. And they could do this so powerfully, and this is what would happen. The reality is, I look at stuff economically.
The people who that commercial would enrage are driving RAF4s and have trucker hats and have almost no disposable income. And that's an elitist statement and it's true. And the people who would be emboldened and feel really good about that company are the people with all the money.
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Chapter 6: How do they view the Israeli-Palestinian conflict?
Oh, absolutely had it. Abso-fucking-lutely had it. You know what the second worst thing to happen to young people? What? The worst thing is remote work. The second worst thing is the anti-alcohol movement. The risk to your 25-year-old liver is dwarfed by the risk of social isolation.
Let me ask both of you, what role has alcohol played in the formation of your romantic and your platonic relationships as young women?
Oh, my God, huge. Yeah, I wasn't having sex unless I was drunk.
Okay, started drinking at 19, lost my virginity at 19, do the math.
Right, yeah.
Okay, I have never, look, my advice to young people, and I say this only half jokingly, is that you get out of the house more, drink more, and make a series of bad decisions that might pay off.
I totally agree with you. We have Gen Z kids. So my youngest son is graduating right now. I have been to, I'm not kidding, 75 different events. It is the most celebrated generation. We've had all of these banquets, all of these awards ceremonies. It is the biggest circle jerk of made-up bullshit I've ever attended. And part of it is, you know, the parents are helicoptering in, but...
Part of, I think, the situation is, because I'll get in this mom group meeting, it's like, make sure your son is wearing business casual to this banquet. And I think, no, it would be better for Roman, that's the name of my youngest son, for him to show up in shorts and a t-shirt and flip-flops. and walk in and face the, oh shit, I didn't check to see what I was supposed to wear.
And face that moment instead of mom always throwing herself in front of the bus that maybe their child isn't dressed okay. And I think parents are exacerbating a lot of this, we say in the South, we call them titty babies. This titty baby mentality that, because I'm just, I'm living in it right now and I just think, let your kids make mistakes. That's where all the growth is.
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Chapter 7: What criticisms are made about Trump's policies?
And so all you want is chaos. My son isn't doing well. I want change. And the incumbent, Vice President Harris, was not perceived as change. So our inability to focus on who really needs help, regardless of their identity, which is the middle class in America and young people, That has gotten in the way of Democrats' ability to win elections.
We are now seen as the party that's more interested in grabbing social virtue than figuring out actual programs that increase the material and psychological well-being of citizens. Identity politics has fucked us.
I'm sorry, the delivery on that was so good. Here's what I want to argue. I would argue that the reason Trump won is because I'm sure you've probably seen that bubble graph at how large the right-wing media movement is. It's massive. It is not even comparable. I mean, we can't even remotely compete with the volume that they put out.
What pisses me off about the Democrats is this, is it seems to always be this binary choice. like where you are, identity politics has fucked us. Where at the tail end of the political campaign, the Republicans were the one talking about gender ideology. In my state, we have this whacked out governor, whacked out school superintendent.
They talk about gender politics all the time because it's a great thing to feed the rubes. They don't get it. They don't understand it. They believe the litter box shit, right?
And so I wish the Democrats would make a nuanced argument, but not super difficult argument to make that, you know what, Sherry, you know, that that boy down the street, that's Betty Sue's grandson, that's kind of light in the loafers. We're going to support him, too. You might not get it, but you know, that girl at church, she's got that tomboy granddaughter and we have to support them, too.
I hope that we don't abandon anybody. The 74 percent on the Democratic side. That's bullshit. That pisses me off. I do think that we have people in our party that can take a populist economic message without leaving anybody behind. But I think this swing back that some people within the Democratic Party feel to then just demean identity politics, it's terrible.
We have friends here that have a trans child Raising a trans child in this fucking MAGA hellscape is brutal. It is just brutal for these people. It's brutal for these trans kids. And so I hope that we leave no one behind and we figure out a smart way to integrate
identity politics with solutions for all Americans because the fact of the matter is people with these identities are born to evangelicals. They're born to MAGA people. There's a, you know, have you ever been to a country and Western bar and you seen those men all tighten up in those Wranglers with the big belt buckle? I mean, it looks kind of gay.
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Chapter 8: What is the conclusion of their discussions?
But we stuck our chin out, and we warranted an overreaction, or not warranted, but we invited an overreaction. When you're letting trans women compete in women's sports, where there's scholarships or money on the line, you're just setting yourself up for an overreaction. In addition, and this is a victory, but we need to acknowledge the data. In America today,
You'd rather be born non-white or gay than poor. The academic achievement gap between black and white was double what it was between rich and poor 60 years ago. Now it's flipped. This all kind of comes down to the question that I think most people, most Republicans and almost all Democrats believe that there are certain people born with wind in their face that deserve a hand up.
The question is, what is the metric for deciding who gets a hand up? And I believe it shouldn't be based on any physical attribute. I think it should be based on one thing. and that is the primary dictator of how hard your life is gonna be, and that's how much money you have.
I believe in affirmative action, and I believe it should be based in color, but it should be based on green, and that is how much money you have. Show me the Taiwanese daughter of a private equity billionaire, I'm gonna show you someone who gets into an elite university.
Show me a white kid from Appalachia who was raised by a single mother whose father's incarcerated, I'm gonna have to show you a kid that has a life of addiction and abuse in his life. Affirmative action is a wonderful thing. I'm the beneficiary. I'm a white, heterosexual male. I got unfair advantage. My mother was a secretary, so I got something called Pell Grants.
I got free money, which gave me unfair advantage, and it started an upward spiral for me where I'm now a huge taxpayer. Affirmative action is a wonderful thing, but it should be based on money. We should be helping. Our focus should be on the poor and, quite frankly, people under the age of 40 who have fallen behind relative to their parents. But any observable
your sexual orientation, your race, quite frankly, I think it leads to more problems than it solves. And here's where we can come together. An affirmative action-based program based on income has a 70% overlap with non-whites and the people who traditionally were advantaged because there still is an economic apartheid in the United States.
Black and Hispanic families have an average net worth of about 20 or 25 grand, white families 150. But when you normalize it for college, It evens out. So Trevor, I was just on Trevor Noah's podcast. His kids have too much advantage in today's America. He's they're rich. They're getting the tutors.
They live in areas where I don't think they face any real discrimination, but they still get advantage getting into schools. That's unfair. It should be based on how much money you have. Low income households are the ones that need lifting up and young people need lifting up because we have consistently taken money from them.
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