Rethinking Tech In Schools with Jared Cooney Horvath
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What is the central problem with technology use in schools that the hosts introduce?
The nicest way to put it is our kids are cognitively less capable than we were at their same age.
We feel, both feel, our kids are so much smarter than we are. I have not been able to help them with homework since elementary school. I know 90s song
lyrics. That's your PhD.
Yeah, that's my PhD.
If you break the habit, it can't take too long to get back on track.
That's the good
news.
Yeah, we get older every day. Got more wrinkles, that's okay. Yeah, we're laughing when we age. Life is like a comedy stage. And that's what we got,
Laugh Lines. Hey everybody, I'm Kim Holderness.
And I'm Ben Holderness, and welcome to Laugh Lines.
When you went to school, if you had one computer, one computer in that school, and you had to earn the chance to use that computer by like good behavior.
The computer. The computer. It wasn't called a computer, it was called the computer.
And then you got 20 minutes to play Oregon Trail. You died of dysentery. And then you had to move on because it was somebody else's turn. If you find yourself recognizing that story, you're home. Welcome.
I don't even know if they had computers at all when I first got there. You and I are from, I mean, I'm from the, I was born in the mid seventies. You were born in the late seventies. We're practically different people. No,
I'm kidding. We do have a lot of different experiences, just those few
years. And we've been learning that because we talk so much about nostalgia in these podcasts and nostalgia is very specific. Speaking of nostalgia, if you are listening to us, we're glad you're listening to us on your headphones, on your walk, enjoy it. If you're watching us on YouTube, you'll notice a little something different. We have updated our set by making it older.
We will do our very best to describe what we're seeing here. We have taken some artifacts from our attic. We have purchased only this phone. And Sam will tell the story behind that. But we've added some decor to our Laugh Line set. And we just thought it was fitting for today's episode.
And it's important to note that we've basically turned this into a fossil dig, like a dinosaur fossil dig. Artifacts. Yeah, I'm saying that. Artifact is a perfect term. These are things that our society has deemed useless. And so they don't exist in the real world anymore. And if you stay with us, that's going to be a nice through line to our interviewing guests today.
I will say, though, they still sell a Trapper Keeper.
They do. They brought them back. They were gone for a minute. I love
a Trapper Keeper. We have some Blockbuster video cases. Yes. Should we play the most recent Blockbuster
video? Lame. You never had blockbuster video where finding a movie was a super challenging game. Yeah, you had to put on pants, get in a car, go to a store usually pretty far from your home, knowing that there's no chance in hell that they still have dirty dancing. And sure enough, the new releases are gone. You really were hoping they would have Red Dawn, but there's only crappy movies left in the store. Maybe you could score Police Academy 4.
But Sam Allen, our producer, produced those cases. They look so incredibly lifelike, but they came together with basically a word processor, a really nice guy on the internet who makes free Blockbuster templates. Although we donated to him, right? Didn't we?
Yes. There's this, basically this website called Blockbuster Sleeve Maker. It's like
exactly what we needed.
Exactly. This guy, his name is Tex. And you just type the movie title in. It pulls up this Blockbuster thing. And you can even specify which Blockbuster store
number
is on this text. So shout out to him. I threw some money towards his way because we made about 20 of these for this video. It's
so real too. The synopsis. Remember how you would read the synopsis of the movie on the back? I don't know how he did this, but you type in the movie and it populates all of that.
Everything.
On the back of it.
Technology. Technology,
man. Also, it's pretty funny. If you look at the cases, they're all really crappy movies because that's what the song was about, about how you never could get
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the central problem with technology use in schools that the hosts introduce?
0:00–7:37
2
How does Jared Cooney Horvath explain the cognitive decline of Gen Z compared to previous generations?
7:37–14:59
3
Why do the hosts argue that handwriting is more effective for learning than typing?
14:59–23:15
4
What evidence do the hosts cite about the rise of digital literacy instruction and the drop in actual digital competence?
23:15–32:02
5
How do the speakers suggest parents can opt‑out of non‑essential tech in their children’s schools?
32:02–41:19
6
What is ‘deep note‑taking’ and why do the hosts say it matters for student comprehension?
41:19–50:54
7
What practical steps do the hosts recommend for teachers and districts to control tech use in the classroom?
50:54–59:52
8
What final takeaway do the hosts give about balancing knowledge, creativity, and technology for future learners?
59:52–1:04:27