Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness

Hitting The Road & NYT Bestsellers

21 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

First off, let me say that we are humbled and grateful for you all and the support of our book, ADHD Is Awesome. For the past few weeks, we’ve met s...

Are We In A Friendship Recession? with Shari Leid

14 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

My mother (who I love and adore) moved to town in January to be closer to our family. It’s been wonderful to be able to call her up to see if s...

The Marriage Hacks We Live By

07 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

As I write this, we are celebrating 19 years of pure, wedded bliss (do you hear the sarcasm?) NINETEEN YEARS. Our marriage is a freshman in college. O...

ADHD Is Awesome Audiobook Preview!

30 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

If you are listening to this on April 30th - the day this podcast came out - our new book, ADHD Is Awesome is out today! About five years ago, we star...

ADHD Is Awesome: Doing Better (Pt 3)

25 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Yay, you made it to the end (and a HUGE thank you for listening!) This is Part 3 of our 3-part ADHD Is Awesome bonus series. This podcast series is in...

You Are What You Watch with Walt Hickey

23 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Hi friends, Penn here. As some of you know, I am obsessed with all things sci-fi. This traces way back to my childhood during the Star Wars and Star T...

ADHD Is Awesome: How To Help (Pt 2)

18 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome back! This is Part 2 of our 3-part ADHD Is Awesome bonus series! This podcast series is inspired by our new book ADHD Is Awesome which comes o...

The Worst Questions Ever (And The Best)

16 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

I love discovering new things about people through great conversation. But lately I’ve been thinking about how to avoid the pitfalls of asking a que...

ADHD Is Awesome: Your Brain (Pt 1)

11 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to our 3-part ADHD Is Awesome bonus series! This podcast series is inspired by our new book ADHD Is Awesome which comes out April 30, 2024. In...

Will Artificial Intelligence Take Over? with Dr. Helen Crompton

09 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Most of you that have followed us for a while know I’m an anxious person. You know one thing that bizarrely doesn’t scare me? Artificial intellige...

Let’s Reframe ADHD

02 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

If you had a button to get rid of your ADHD or someone else’s, would you press it? The perception society has around Attention-Deficit/Hyperact...

Be Happier Today with Dr. Catherine Chambliss

26 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

I heard of schadenfreude for the first time while sitting in the audience of the hilariously wonderful Broadway show Avenue Q. It means pleasure deriv...

Menopause: It's Not In Your Head with Dr. Mary Claire Haver

19 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

I have a solid marriage, a great one actually, but most nights I look over to my husband, who falls blissfully asleep as soon as his head hits the pil...

(Mostly) Thriving With ADHD - Live from SXSW!

12 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Penn here! This week, we recorded a live podcast at SXSW in Austin, Texas about how to (mostly) thrive with ADHD. We talk about how the world wasn’t...

We Were Loud Wrong

05 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Recently, we had the privilege of going on family vacation in the Caribbean and one of the activities we planned was snorkeling. He was particularly e...

Stop Overworking with Celeste Headlee

27 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

We have very fun (but weird) jobs where we have to always be producing something. Small business owners know that you have to hustle in order to make ...

Is It Too Late To Change My Parenting? with Dr. Hope Seidel

20 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

I am pretty sure I didn’t do “gentle parenting” with my kids. To be clear, Penn and I don’t really have to discipline our children. They ...

Wacky Questions For Your Valentine

13 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

There was a time when we’d have a reservation at a cozy restaurant to celebrate Valentine’s Day. Things are different now, but not “bad”&...

Taylor Swift, Super Bowl, and Misogyny with Carlos Whittaker

06 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Last week, we put out a fun video about Taylor Swift and the Super Bowl. It went viral and for the most part people loved it. But some of the comments...

Let's Play What The Flock (With You!)

30 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This week, we had you join us to play our new game What The Flock? (Thanks for being DTF... which is down to flock, of course.) We also have Peter Den...

Striving For Body Neutrality with Anne Poirier

23 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

*This podcast talks about weight loss and issues surrounding body image* I love the sentiment around body positivity today. Models of all sizes cover ...

We're Doing Boundaries Wrong with Dr. Abby Medcalf

16 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Boundaries have been a buzzword for a while, but what they really? (And are we even doing them right?) Today we welcome Dr. Abby Medcalf onto the show...

I Need More In 2024

09 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This year I am trying to worry less, and it’s a hard resolution to measure. But I have a theory about needing to do less of something: Adding more. ...

Best of 2023 with Ann Marie and Sam

19 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

My motto lately has been: "That sounds like a January problem." So when it came to the last podcast of the year, I decided to make it a problem for ou...

Christmas Jammies: 10 Years Later

12 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

I don’t buy lottery tickets. Not because I have moral opposition, but because I know I’ll never get this lucky ever again. Ten years ago, we won t...

Can You Have A Calm Christmas? with Beth Kempton

05 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

I have to admit, I roll my eyes when people tell me to slow down and enjoy things. When I first heard the phrase ‘Calm Christmas’ my mind heard th...

The Worst Gift I Ever Received

28 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Have you ever gotten a gift so bad that it's hilarious? This week we needed a laugh so we asked you for your worst gift stories. You did not disappoin...

What We're Getting Wrong About Youth Sports with Dr. Nicole Detling

21 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Penn and I are no strangers to sports. We both enjoy playing recreationally, watching matches, and our kids are competitive too. There’s so much to ...

The Slow 60

14 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Last month, I announced my Slow 60 Challenge in an attempt to minimize anxiety and unnecessary stress in my life. Maybe you’ve probably heard of the...

The Measure of Your Life with Nikki Erlick

07 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week we try our first Holderness Book Club! Nikki Erlick, author of The Measure, joins us this week to discuss her New York Times Bestselling nov...

What Are You Afraid Of?

31 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Kim and I have a phrase that we talk about in our marriage book: Name it to tame it. It’s the idea that when you say your fears out loud you take aw...

Fixing Your Craving Mindset with Michael Easter

24 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

In our society of overabundance, we are constantly craving more, more, more. For me, I can't stop scrolling. It’s like a slot machine, but in this c...

What Are Our Dogs Trying To Tell Us? with Victoria Stillwell (feat. Dr. Jessica Pierce)

17 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

We’ve all done it – looked into our dog’s eyes and wished we knew what they were thinking. We enlisted the help of our dear friend, Victoria Sti...

Just Because with Matthew McConaughey

10 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

We have a very special guest joining us for today's podcast. Academy Award-winning actor and New York Times bestselling author, Matthew McConaughey! M...

Penn Sings The News

03 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Recently, we put out a song parody in response to Taylor Swift showing up to watch Travis Kelce at the Kansas City Chiefs game. (The rush of a deadlin...

Turning Kids Dreams In Entrepreneurship with Jess Ekstrom

26 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

I like to think I am a recovering ‘snow plow’ parent. You’ve heard of helicopter parents that hover over their children, right? Well, instead of...

Blockbuster, Perms, and Whatchamacallit

19 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Who remembers what it was like to walk around the mall on a Friday night and seeing all your friends? It takes so long nowadays for my friend group to...

Changing How We Talk About Death with Hadley Vlahos, RN

12 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Penn and I have had our fair share of interactions with hospice as our loved ones grow older. There are so many people who don’t always have access ...

Helping Kids (And Us) with Failure with Michelle Icard

05 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

I am constantly wavering about being proud of my kids for good grades and feeling overwhelmed with how much work they have to do. The same goes for sp...

How Well Do You Know Your Partner?

29 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

When you've been married for a long time, it's hard to learn something new about each other. Luckily, our producer, Ann Marie Taepke, joined us this w...

Should We Get A Sleep Divorce? with Dr. Shelby Harris

22 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Some people get FOMO (the Fear of Missing Out) but I have FOMS (the Fear of Missing Sleep.) I go to bed early and I am an extremely light sleeper. Pen...

Back to School Pep Talk with Dr. Hope Seidel

15 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

It's back to school time and we honestly needed a little pep talk. So, Dr. Seidel joined us on the podcast this week to calm our nerves. Her biggest p...

Enjoying The Process with Charlie Berens

08 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week we were in the mood to laugh, so who better to invite back to the podcast than comedian Charlie Berens. Charlie is about to embark on his fo...

Asking For A Friend (Literally) with Dr. Marisa G. Franco

01 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

I have the best, most loyal friends from different parts of my life but I’ll be honest, the idea of making NEW friends makes my pits sweat. I’m in...

I’m Sore From Going Outside My Comfort Zone

25 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Penn got me kiteboarding lessons for my birthday. It was so cool, but also very painful. I learned a few life lessons when I went outside my comfort z...

Secrets For A Long Life with Dr. Gladys McGarey

18 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Our guest today is Dr. Gladys McGarey, a visionary doctor and co-founder of the American Holistic Medical Association. Dr. Gladys is 102 years old and...

ADHD Life Coaching with Dr. Ned Hallowell

11 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

True story, when Penn first got diagnosed with ADHD in the mid-90s, his doctor handed him a book called Driven To Distraction. It was a brand new book...

Questions For Your Family

04 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On the podcast this week, we are answering your questions, but we picked questions you can also ask your family! These are great discussions for a sum...

What Happened To Summer with Carl Honoré

27 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

For some reason, this summer feels busier than our regular school year. Our teen and pre-teen kids are involved in camps, sports, studying for SATs, a...

I'm Sorry For Saying Sorry with Shadé Zahrai

20 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

I probably say sorry at least twenty times a day. Of course I want to take accountability, but sometimes I apologize when I didn’t do anything wrong...

A Sober Curious Summer

13 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

It’s the start of summer, which means going to the pool, grilling out, and heading to the beach… all of which usually include an adult beverage. B...

Our Taylor Swift Era with Lola Holderness

06 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

I want my kids to be happy. (I know, I know, I know. It’s an impossible and unrealistic goal.) I’ve been in enough therapy sessions to know t...

Let's Get Uncomfortable with Dr. Selena Snow

30 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

My goal this year is to put myself in as many uncomfortable situations as possible. I wanted to get out of my comfort zone. On The Amazing Race, we we...

Our Midwest Neighbor & Your Stories

23 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week on the podcast, we wanted to laugh so we brought in "our Midwest neighbor" to help. Her name is Ann Marie Taepke, and she’s been playing o...

What Will Stop Gun Violence with Ryan Busse

16 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Every time I learn about another mass shooting in this country, I lose at least a day. Though a school shooting in my community is my worst fear—it ...

Help! I’ve Fallen Into A Thought Trap with Morra Aarons-Mele

09 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Imagine you are headed into your first day at a new job. You walk in the door and suddenly your mind is overwhelmed with thoughts: Nobody likes me. I’...

Maycember & Great Advice

02 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Any parent with school-aged children can tell you how crazy the month of May is. Just like the month of December, the calendar is packed with activiti...

Our Colicky Baby Is Driving with Dr. Hope Seidel

25 Apr 2023

Contributed by Lukas

You guys. It happened. I blinked and my tiny colicky-baby got her license. I keep repeating to myself, “She’s a good driver. She’...

Anti-Spacing Tips for ADHD

18 Apr 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Recently, Kim said something to me that sort of hit me like a ton of bricks… “I can’t always tell when you’re listening to me.” We...

Essential Life Skills for Teens with Lisa Endlich Heffernan

11 Apr 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Our kids, Lola and Penn Charles, are getting older, and I have never felt more on the record. Whether it’s driving lessons with Lola or helping PC p...

It's Fine, But It's Not Fine

04 Apr 2023

Contributed by Lukas

We received a question last week about how to deal with some of the behaviors of ADHD when you are a person who experiences anxiety. It’s something ...

Anxiety, Imposter Syndrome, and Space Travel with Andy Weir

28 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

When Kim asked who I’d like to have on the podcast as a guest, I blurted out “Andy Weir!” Weir writes science fiction and is, hands down, m...

A Second Chance At Parenting

21 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Apparently more people in their 40s get pregnant than I thought... This week, Penn and I talk about having to recently buy a pregnancy test and how th...

The Gift of Swedish Death Cleaning with Kathryn Snearly

14 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

There’s a lot of reasons we hold onto things, but one profound thing about that is: Everything that you own, owns a part of you. This week we t...

Forced Family Fun

07 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

In our family, Kim does most of the planning… groceries, kid schedules, house maintenance... so when it comes to family vacations, Kim deserves a br...

Forgiveness, ADHD, & Fishbowl Brain with Dr. Marcy Caldwell

28 Feb 2023

Contributed by Lukas

If you want a master class in forgiveness, marry someone with ADHD. While I am the queen of holding a grudge, Penn couldn’t be more opposite. On thi...

Navigating the Emotional Life of Teens with Dr. Lisa Damour

21 Feb 2023

Contributed by Lukas

There is an adolescent mental health crisis going on in America right now. It’s so severe, in fact, the US Surgeon General issued a rare advisory on...

How You Met Your Person

14 Feb 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week we did a whole episode about relatshes (our funny way of abbreviating relationships) in honor of Valentine's Day! We talk about how we met e...

Weight Loss Myths (& WTF) with Dr. Mary Claire Haver

07 Feb 2023

Contributed by Lukas

I’ve always said after I had kids that items may have “shifted in flight.” As I’ve gotten older, I’m not doing many things different in term...

We Don't Always Know What We're Doing

31 Jan 2023

Contributed by Lukas

I have a really hard time ever calling something a failure. For me, even if something doesn’t go as well as I had hoped, I always learn and grow fro...

Being Better Humans with Carlos Whittaker

24 Jan 2023

Contributed by Lukas

I am fully aware that I am susceptible to seasonal depression disorder this time of year, and, when life feels like a LOT, I like to look for actionab...

Is Everything Awesome? with Neil Pasricha

17 Jan 2023

Contributed by Lukas

As someone who struggles with anxiety and depression where positivity is a conscious choice, I get a little skeptical about any advice on how to "magi...

We May Be A Mismatch

10 Jan 2023

Contributed by Lukas

What a journey this podcast took us on. As you know, the new year always brings new hopes and dreams for me (Kim) and I will shout them from the rooft...

How We Got In Shape For The Amazing Race with Taylor Pope

03 Jan 2023

Contributed by Lukas

In our mid-40s, we knew we’d be some of the older competitors on The Amazing Race - a famously grueling show in which teams of two travel the globe ...

Teens Might Be Our Favorite

20 Dec 2022

Contributed by Lukas

As a new mom, I was secretly dreading the time when my kids were older and Christmas would somehow feel less special when the “magic” wore off. We...

Penn’s (Medically Necessary) Cosmetic Surgery

13 Dec 2022

Contributed by Lukas

In this week’s podcast, Kim and I “plogged” the week surrounding my eyelid surgery, and I did a little soul searching about my own self-image an...

The Silver Linings of Menopause with Dr. Kourtney Sims

06 Dec 2022

Contributed by Lukas

While we typically only hear the dreadful things about menopause, I’m happy to report that there are actually silver linings to this stage of life. ...

Holiday Marriage Contract

29 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

We've talked in the past and in our book about secret contracts you have in relationships (i.e. - who always empties the dishwasher, who always makes ...

Pickleball Y'all with Leigh Waters

22 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

I love talking to a Mom... especially one who is kicking as much butt as Leigh Waters. Leigh Waters was a practicing attorney a few short years ago, w...

Gratitude Is The New Mindfulness with Dr. Robert Emmons

15 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

With Thanksgiving around the corner, I have been thinking about thankfulness and gratitude. On today’s podcast episode, we spoke with Dr. Robert Emm...

Our Political Therapy Session with Pantsuit Politics

08 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Couldn't we all benefit from a little political therapy? Originally, I wasn't even sure if this episode would be a good idea. Some political issues ha...

Fun Trivia & Why I Hate Losing

01 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Now that my daughter is in Driver’s Ed, she likes to remind me when I’m not completely following the rules of the road. So much so that the other ...

Open Hearts & Your Questions For Us

25 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

We've gotten so many good questions from you recently, we dedicated our podcast to answering them! In this episode, we cover evolving dreams, insecuri...

Conversations with Our Younger Selves

18 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

In honor of Penn's birthday, we decided to ask the question: What would 10-year-old Penn think of his life now? It’s easy to get caught up in the bu...

We Faceoff With You (Our Game Launched!)

11 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

What’s that emotion that’s excited but a little nervous? Nervcited? Well, I’m nervcited because our new game Family Faceoff has just l...

Mental Health & Flaccid Heimlich

04 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this week’s podcast, I walked Penn through my month of mental health discovery, what worked, and what has room for improvement. The more we talke...

Reframing Our Parenting with Dr. Hope Seidel

27 Sep 2022

Contributed by Lukas

In recent years, I often have shied away from parenting podcasts and books because the older our kids get, the more I feel like they're "cooked." For ...

What Does “Doing The Best I Can” Mean?

20 Sep 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Let me start by saying I have the best wife on the planet. Let me also say that even though Kim and I wrote a book about marriage (and went to marriag...

5 Tips to Channel Hyperfocus

13 Sep 2022

Contributed by Lukas

ADHD is a spectrum neurodiversity, which means that everyone has at least just a little of it. Because ADHD is Penn's superpower, he gives his best ti...

We Try To Meditate with Susan Lee

06 Sep 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Now that the kids are back in school, I’ve decided to use September to focus on my own mental health. I’ve talked openly about how I’ve battled ...

Creative Process & Autotune 101

30 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

This week we explore your questions, but we keep circling back to a few themes of our own. Tell us what you like, ask a question, or just say hi....

Where Do We Go From Here? with Dr. Anthony Fauci

23 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

This week on the podcast, we spoke to Dr. Anthony Fauci about the current state of COVID and advice for parents on the upcoming school year. We had a ...

Can We Reimagine Our Schools? with Dr. Emily King

16 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

The past few years have been rough for all of us, especially teachers. As we approach a new year of school, we want to learn more how to support both ...

Happiness Is Not The Goal

09 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

I tend to carry the weight of other people’s happiness on my shoulders. I want the people I care about to be happy; so much so that I let it weigh m...

Stop Saying I'm In Trouble with Dr. Lisa Damour

02 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Ever since our daughter, Lola, has been getting older, people have been telling me how much "trouble" I'm in as a Dad. That basically, I'm going to ha...

Amazing Race Prize & Your Questions

26 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

“So what did you do with your winnings from The Amazing Race?” is probably the most common question we get asked recently. But when we asked this ...

This Is Our Moon Landing with Keith Parrish

19 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Five years before I was born, 650 million people worldwide watched us walk on the moon. Hot take: I believe that the James Webb Telescope is more impo...

Why (and How) We Make Podcasts

12 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

We say all the time, but our podcast really is our favorite thing we do. It’s when we actually sit down together for a dedicated time and have conve...

Remembering Penn’s Dad

28 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

If you met Penn's Dad, you’d know where Penn gets his personality from. He was an absolute legend. He lit up every room he walked into, dedicated hi...

Parenting Expectations vs. Reality with Dr. Hope Seidel

14 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

In the months leading up to the birth of Lola, Penn was really nervous about becoming a Dad. We didn’t have practice with other kids. We never even ...