The Bondi Stories We’ll Never Forget & How To Be A Good Guest

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Holly Wainwright 0:00
You're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast. Hello Outlouders. This is a heavy, sad week in Australia. Talking to you all in so many different places all over the world, as I know lots of Outlouders are, is a real profound privilege for us when things are dark. And we actually do a lot of talking off mic about how best to honour that. Today, Jessie, Amelia and I want to talk a bit about how it feels to be so close to the centre of this tragedy. Not because it's about us, The real pain here belongs to Australia's Jewish community and to everybody affected directly by what happened at Bondi Beach on Sunday. But we are here and we're close to many people who were affected and we want to talk about some of the names we've learned this week that we will never forget.

What happened during the Bondi attacks and who are the heroes?

Holly Wainwright 0:51
And then we're going to move away from that darkness just for a little window of time and bring you some other conversations. Being able to do that is not something that I know everyone has the ability to do today. but we also know it's what some of you need. Jessie, you and I both went down to Bondi yesterday, separately. Tell me about why you went.
Amelia Lester 1:11
Uh... Luca and I both sort of looked at each other and went, this is something we feel like we need to do. Luca is Jewish and born and raised Jewish. And born and raised in the eastern suburbs. In the eastern suburbs, exactly right. And so we went to Bondi and the first thing that struck me was the eeriness of the silence and One word I would never use to describe Bondi is quiet. Like from the traffic, there's always music blaring, there's people talking. It was just silence. You could also tell that everyone was slightly on edge because as we were standing there looking at the memorial and there are... just so many flowers. A phone would go off or someone would speak a little loudly and you could tell that that was making some people uncomfortable and no doubt because we were surrounded by people who were actually in Bondi when that happened and members of the Jewish community who are on high alert right now.
Amelia Lester 2:21
And looking at the... The flowers, there were little teddy bears from the hospital that I noticed and messages. And it was just an incredibly sombre atmosphere. What struck me is you're sort of walking down there in silence and just it's swarms of people with flowers, putting them down and you see someone in a school uniform dancing And someone, you know, a member of the Jewish community, a Muslim, a surfer, just the cosmopolitan of all the different people who are meeting there. And it was really affecting but I think a really important thing to go and stand there and process it. I have a lot of people who Bondi means a lot to them and they're not close to Bondi right now. And they wish they were.
Amelia Lester 3:20
And so to look over and see there's a black tarp set up that sort of covers where the now crime scene is and, you know, the bridge is only metres away and a lot of people are sitting on the grass reflecting and, you know, you know, talking or remembering certain things that happened. I have friends that were, I have a friend who was in the bathroom in the pavilion when it happened and she's getting her head around it. And yesterday everyone, Luca and I spoke to from, we met up with a friend of his and we're talking to someone else on the phone and you go, oh, how are you? And they say, oh, my friend was shot. My colleague was a first responder. I have someone who I went to school with who is currently in surgery.
Amelia Lester 4:13
Like the closeness of this and the victims, but also there are a lot of people who are injured in hospital, who are shot, who are looking at potential amputation, who will look at like just the horrific ongoing effects and the ripple impact on the community is just can't be overstated.
Holly Wainwright 4:34
Absolutely. I went down there because I don't live in Sydney anymore, as many out loud as will know, but for 25 years I lived in the eastern suburbs. I lived in Coogee, which is a few beaches over. And as to your point about a lot of people who that place means a lot to them but they're not around, that was very much – I felt very – I went and I put my flowers down and there were people obviously everywhere and there were a lot of members of the Jewish community who were over near the memorial who were offering to pray with people, who were giving food out, who were talking and gathering and being together, which, you know, was so important.

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