First came the shutdown, next the layoffs

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Federal worker layoffs are near, according to Trump administration officials. Earlier this week, the president said he would use the government shutdown to target "Democrat things." And a shutdown with layoffs may have more serious economic consequences than your average shutdown. For more on that we turn to Diane Swonk, chief economist at KPMG. Also on today's show: China launches a new visa to attract more international STEM talent.

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