What does the end of TPS mean for Haitian workers in the U.S.?

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Kimberly Adams 0:06
Hello, everyone. I'm Kimberly Adams. Welcome back to Make Me Smart, where none of us is as smart as all of us. With everything going on in Minnesota, the Trump administration's crackdown on immigration has been on a lot of people's minds and not just in Minnesota. It's been happening all over the country. And today we want to look at another aspect of the president's immigration agenda.

What is Temporary Protected Status (TPS) and why is it important?

Kimberly Adams 0:28
His moves to end the Temporary Protected Status or TPS program were for several countries, including Venezuela, Nicaragua, Haiti, and others. TPS for Haitians in particular is set to expire on February 3rd, just a few days from now. And my colleague Elizabeth Troval has been reporting on how this could impact Haitian immigrant communities in Florida. She's here to tell us all about it. Welcome to the show, Liz. Thanks. Great to be here. So first of all, remind us, what exactly does temporary protected status mean?
Elizabeth Trovall 1:02
Well, temporary protected status is one of those things that's like, it's temporary, but it's been used. People have been on temporary protected status. They've used temporary protected status to live and work in this country legally for, in some cases, decades. But Haitians in particular were first granted temporary protected status after the 2010 earthquake.
Kimberly Adams 1:28
And this is a program basically designed for people leaving a crisis, whether it be a war or a natural disaster that may need to flee to the United States. But the idea being you're not coming here permanently. You're just coming until whatever's going down in your country is resolved, right?
Right.
Elizabeth Trovall 1:45
Yeah, exactly. It's kind of a handy tool for people who are facing really dire conditions to be able to be in the U.S. and have kind of a life raft, right? So they can, again, work legally, make money for their family, you know, provide for themselves and not be worried about being deported, right? And yes, the idea is that once the country stabilizes, then people can go home.
Kimberly Adams 2:13
Why has this program for various countries been extended so many times? And what's been the pushback to ending it?
Elizabeth Trovall 2:22
I mean, the conditions in a lot of countries have not gotten better. And in some cases, you could say things have gotten worse or about the same. And so, you know, there have been legal challenges, right, to ending it. You can point to conditions in Haiti as being like, wait, it's OK to live in Haiti now when gangs run most of the country or many parts of the country. There's also Trump administration is trying to end TPS for Venezuelans. And an appeals court actually recently declared the revocation of TPS for Venezuelans to be illegal and that the federal government also overstepped in ending TPS for Haitians. And there's like another court case that's happening. Obviously, this is all going to get kicked up.
Elizabeth Trovall 3:04
to the Supreme Court. And the people I talked to don't have a ton of hope that Haitians will retain TPS. But, you know, there's no way of predicting what's going to happen at the Supreme Court, of course.
Kimberly Adams 3:17
So you have these Haitian workers that you went to speak to in Florida who are watching all this go down, trying to figure out what might be next for them. But where did you go and who did you talk to?
Elizabeth Trovall 3:31
So I went to Boca Raton, Florida, to this place called Sinai Residences. There's about 500 people living there. It's like kind of a mix of like independent living and memory care, assisted living. And it's super super luxe like there were like fancy movie theaters and restaurants and pools and everyone's like smiling and happy and you know the residents and the staff are like saying hi to each other and waving in the hallway like very idyllic to be honest and there at Sinai Residences I was able to talk to you know Haitians who have TPS who are working at Sinai Residences through temporary protected status that's how they have work permits and they're going to have to Stop working there if TPS is indeed revoked.
Elizabeth Trovall 4:21
And, you know, I asked one worker, Mary, who's a certified nursing assistant. Do you have a plan of what to do? I don't have no plan.

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