Menu
Sign In Search Podcasts Charts People & Topics Add Podcast API Blog Pricing
Podcast Image

Marketplace

Fast-casual meal deals are upon us

27 Feb 2026

Transcription

Chapter 1: What are fast-casual meal deals and why are they trending?

1.972 - 34.725 Kristen Schwab

uncertainty has been the economic buzzword for some time now. Will it continue to be the way we describe the economy in the months to come? From American Public Media, this is Marketplace. In New York, I'm Kristen Schwab. And for Kai Risdahl, it's Friday, February 27th. It's good to be here with you. As always on Fridays, we cover seven days of this economy in seven-ish minutes.

0

34.745 - 43.555 Kristen Schwab

With us today is Anna Swanson, who covers trade and economics at The New York Times. Also, Heather Long, chief economist at Navy Federal Credit Union. Hello, you two.

0

44.446 - 45.407 Heather Long

Happy Friday.

0

45.427 - 59.748 Kristen Schwab

Happy Friday. So, Anna, I guess unsurprisingly, I want to start with tariffs. Since the Supreme Court ruling last week, President Trump created a patchwork of tariffs to keep his policies going. Can you update us on where things stand right now?

0

60.99 - 83.693 Anna Swanson

Yeah, it's been quite a ride over here in tariff land. So last Friday, of course, while I was trying to be on vacation, the Supreme Court overturned the president's tariffs, which was Just a really dramatic rebuke of a central policy for the president. Trump, you know, then immediately replaced those old tariffs with a new 10 percent global tariff.

84.254 - 106.873 Anna Swanson

He has threatened to raise that to 15 percent, but that has not actually come to pass at this point. So for now, it's 10 percent. But that tariff has an expiration date. It only lasts for 150 days without congressional approval, which seems kind of unlikely at this point with the midterms approaching and people concerned about tariffs increasing prices.

107.573 - 130.865 Anna Swanson

So the administration is working on a variety of other new tariffs that could come into effect potentially this summer to replace it. So it's been a really dramatically shifting landscape for companies, you know, trying to figure out what these new tariffs could be. And these terms of trade translate into a lot of money for them. So they're watching it very closely, obviously.

132.126 - 141.976 Kristen Schwab

Yeah, Ana, I think, you know, at first we weren't sure what companies were going to do about this, how intensely they would kind of proceed forward with lawsuits. And it seems like a lot of them have filed.

143.558 - 163.778 Anna Swanson

Yeah, I think that is an insurance policy right now. So you are seeing high profile companies like Costco, FedEx, you know, going to court to sued to try to preserve a refund. Of course, doing this brings you into the firing line for the Trump administration. Companies are also kind of wary of raising their hand.

Chapter 2: How are inflation and rising costs affecting consumer behavior?

198.298 - 215.145 Kristen Schwab

There's also geopolitical tensions, you know, a new headline about AI almost every day, it feels like. Heather, I'm wondering if you feel like the level of uncertainty is higher or lower than it was six or so months ago. And in real terms, what does that mean for the economy?

0
0

216.79 - 233.618 Heather Long

Yeah, it's a hard time to be an economist. You can make a prediction on Friday that could be obsolete by Monday. So don't forget private credit is also in the mix there. I mean, look, is it higher than six months ago? I think it's hard to say it's really come down a lot.

0

233.598 - 255.186 Heather Long

And it's no surprise that we're in a hiring recession, that companies are pretty hesitant to hire an environment like this and hesitant to invest much outside of artificial intelligence. But let me throw one more interesting twist in the mix, Kristen. You know, look, 2026 from an economic perspective, it kind of looks like a toddler on a sugar high.

0

255.827 - 255.927

Yeah.

255.907 - 277.587 Heather Long

There's just a lot of things that are juicing the economy up right now. The tax refunds, the lower interest rates. We're at a four-year low for the mortgage rates at Navy Federal. We're seeing a refinance boom, which is freeing up a couple hundred dollars for people who can refi. We're probably going to see some tariff refunds at some point. And so it looks pretty good in 2026.

278.909 - 293.802 Heather Long

But the question is, what happens to the toddler after the sugar high? And I think in a lot of corporate suites, that's where that uncertainty is really there. You can think 2026 looks pretty good, but just 2027, what happens after that high?

293.862 - 309.657 Kristen Schwab

Yeah. I mean, look, you said it yourself. Your job is tricky right now. Old tariffs, new tariffs, lots of things happening. Delayed data. We're still getting delayed data from the government shutdown. I mean, how do you do your job right now? How do you see the big picture?

311.712 - 337.878 Heather Long

Well, the one thing that's really still powering this economy is consumer spending. And so the health of the consumer is top of mind, I think, for the vast majority of economists right now. And that's another one of these questions of things look a little bit better, despite a lot of headlines, obviously a lot of credit card debt. You still see and very gloomy consumer confidence.

Chapter 3: What impact do new tariffs have on the economy?

358.844 - 371.5 Kristen Schwab

Heather, we'll keep with you. You know, you're talking about consumer confidence rose slightly in February. The last jobs report wasn't too bad. I mean, do you think it sounds like maybe you think the consumer could continue to carry us through?

0

371.52 - 396.048 Heather Long

In 2026, yes. I think it's a lot murkier towards once you get to 2027. I think Fed Chair Powell was right that the labor market looks like it's stabilizing. Now, that is not what most people want to hear. They want to see it reviving. We're still in a very anemic job market. But we're not seeing layoffs pick up, which is really encouraging.

0

396.088 - 402.537 Heather Long

And so I would say we're in this stable but frustrated consumer era.

0

403.394 - 426.232 Kristen Schwab

Ana, you know, one number that came out today that helps us look forward a little bit is the producer price index. Those are wholesale prices, which might tell us something about what would happen in the future. Today, the prices show that they were rising at 2.9 percent year over year. What do you think that means for our economic future?

0

426.252 - 429.958 Kristen Schwab

And do you think that it's going to be the cost is going to be passed down to consumers?

430.968 - 453.034 Anna Swanson

Yeah, so inflation on the producer side was a little hotter than expected this morning. And I think it's just a reminder that it remains kind of a balancing act for this economy. We are concerned about slowdowns. We're also still concerned about inflation being, you know, stickier. I'm also now concerned about this toddler on a sugar high that Heather was mentioning.

453.475 - 470.733 Anna Swanson

Parents all know that doesn't end well, right? But in terms of where tariffs will go and the impact on prices, we've kind of been getting mixed reports. I mean, you do see some analysts say that most of the tariff increases have been priced in by companies.

470.853 - 489 Anna Swanson

But anecdotally, a lot of companies are still telling me that they have held off on increasing prices too much so far, but that the time may come for them to do so in the future. They were really concerned about the consumer market being too fragile and whether consumers would put up with price increases.

489.2 - 506.456 Anna Swanson

But in the meantime, they've been having to deal with having their profit margins compressed, having less money to invest in new plants and employees. So that situation isn't sustainable forever. So. I do think, you know, particularly if you see tariffs, you know, they've gone down a little bit.

Chapter 4: How is data center construction influencing GDP growth?

550.358 - 570.915 Kristen Schwab

It's been a full three months since last year's government shutdown ended, and we are still getting delayed data. Today is construction spending. The census report shows in 2025, total construction spending declined 1.4 percent from the previous year. There was one bright spot, though. Data centers.

0

570.895 - 583.63 Kristen Schwab

As we know, big tech has been spending hundreds of billions of dollars to build out AI infrastructure. But will it be enough to carry the construction industry? Marketplace's Megan McCarty Carino reports.

0

583.65 - 606.335 Unknown

Spending on data center construction grew by almost 30 percent year over year in December. That's a lot of growth for an industry that only recently became notable, says economic analyst Joseph Politano at Apricotus Economics. The Census Bureau did not break out data centers as their own category because it was presumed that they were just a part of office buildings.

0

606.856 - 629.32 Unknown

Now, he says, spending on data center construction is starting to eclipse spending on all other office buildings. It's growing despite some pretty big headwinds in the industry, says Macrina Wilkins, director of market insights at the Associated General Contractors of America. We're seeing a lot of slowdowns because you don't have enough workers or material prices are too expensive.

0

629.721 - 650.869 Unknown

Tariffs have raised costs for steel, aluminum, and copper, while the immigration crackdown has shrunk, an already inadequate labor pool, she says. But for deep-pocketed big tech, these are small problems. Because there's a lot of incentive and a lot of motivation and momentum, that I think is helping the industry instead of in any way taking away from it.

651.035 - 666.856 Unknown

Still, the data center boom hasn't been enough to offset the broader slowdown in the construction industry, says Zach Fritz, an economist at Associated Builders and Contractors. Overall, it's not that large of a category. For context, it's a little bit smaller than the warehouse segment right now.

667.256 - 686.755 Unknown

Data center construction spending hit an annual rate of $45 billion in December, which is a pretty small share of those hundreds of billions of dollars in AI capital expenditures we keep talking about. Most of the spending has gone to electronic components. Joseph Briggs is the head of the global economics team at Goldman Sachs.

686.775 - 711.745 Unknown

He estimates about two-thirds of all spending on data centers goes into imported semiconductors and other computer parts. They get subtracted from gross domestic product. As a result, the boost to growth is small. Goldman Sachs estimates the data center boom contributed about 0.2 percent to GDP growth in 2025. Not nothing in a $30 trillion economy, but certainly not everything.

712.327 - 714.673 Unknown

I'm Megan McCarty Carino for Marketplace.

Chapter 5: What are the risks of Rent Now, Pay Later services?

794.287 - 820.446 Marissa Mender-Franklin

I was part of a local buy nothing group on Facebook. And the day before I made this request, somebody had put out and asked for a French horn for their kid. And within hours, the group had provided a free French horn. And it just made me think that if the group can provide a French horn, surely there's somebody in my neighborhood who has a yard that they would let me grow flowers in.

0

822.907 - 854.06 Marissa Mender-Franklin

My post was like, oh, flowers in need of a garden. And within that first week, I think I had 40 offers of yards to grow in. And that was the start of the farm. For that first spring, most of the flowers that we grew went to our subscriptions. And by the fall, we did our first wedding with flowers that we had grown. Five years in, we're still growing completely in neighbors' yards.

0

854.08 - 884.385 Marissa Mender-Franklin

They're all free leases. All of our landlords are paid solely in flowers and land care. Memphis is a loving, kind, community-oriented place. And I don't know if this model would work just anywhere. It definitely is a model that relies on person-to-person trust. And I am grateful that we get to do it here.

0

887.707 - 896.62 Kristen Schwab

Marissa Mender, Franklin there, growing flowers at Midtown Bramble in Memphis, Tennessee. Tell us about your economy at marketplace.org.

0

914.335 - 918.987 Unknown

Coming up... My brain has said, you made a good choice, and your heart's saying, thank you.

919.649 - 950.671 Kristen Schwab

Total inner peace. But first, let's do the numbers. The Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped 521 points, 1 and 1 tenth percent, to close at 48,977. The Nasdaq lost 210 points, 9 tenths percent, to finish at 22,668. And the S&P 500 gave up 30 points, 4 tenths of a percent, to end at 6878. For the week, the Dow declined 1 and 3 tenths percent. The Nasdaq slid almost 1 percent.

950.891 - 972.816 Kristen Schwab

The S&P 500 slipped 4 tenths of a percent. Netflix finally backed out of its showdown with Paramount over the $111 billion purchase of Warner Brothers. The deal now goes to regulators for approval. Warner Brothers Discovery lost two and two tenths. Paramount Skydance reeled in 20 and eight tenths percent. Netflix jumped 13 and eight tenths percent.

973.297 - 1001.346 Kristen Schwab

Vons Rose, the yield on the 10-year T-note, dropped to 3.95 percent. You're listening to Marketplace. This is Marketplace. I'm Kristen Schwab. One category that's been keeping inflation sticky is shelter. It accounts for a third of the consumer price index. And the latest reading had shelter up 3 percent year over year, higher than the overall rate of inflation.

1001.326 - 1005.833 Kristen Schwab

That's making it harder for people to pay their rent in full at the end of each month.

Chapter 6: How do meal deals compare across different restaurant chains?

1006.434 - 1018.895 Kristen Schwab

So some are turning to new lending tools to bridge the gap. These companies are kind of like Buy Now, Pay Later, but for rent. Cora Lewis wrote about this for the Associated Press. Thanks for being here, Cora.

0

1019.516 - 1020.537 Cora Lewis

Thanks so much for having me.

0

1020.838 - 1027.789 Kristen Schwab

So I think most of us have heard of Buy Now, Pay Later. How are these Rent Now, Pay Later services different?

0

1027.972 - 1050.625 Cora Lewis

Yeah. So with Buy Now, Pay Later, you might be used to seeing it at checkout. You could buy clothes, shoes, furniture, and you break your payments up into several installments. Those are really marketed as zero interest loans. These Rent Now, Pay Later companies say, we're going to extend you money at the beginning of the month to pay the rent.

0

1050.645 - 1075.138 Cora Lewis

And for that, we're going to charge you maybe a flat subscription fee and 1% of your monthly rent. It seems like it's this internet company that's giving you flexibility. But consumer advocates say this really is a short-term loan. And if you look at the numbers and you calculate out an interest rate, it would be a triple-digit interest rate. It would be mob-level, payday-level interest.

1075.579 - 1079.123 Kristen Schwab

How popular are these programs and who uses them?

1079.238 - 1093.34 Cora Lewis

Yeah, the programs have really spread quickly in the last few years. One of them, which is called Liveable, was acquired by a rental platform. And so that one is really integrated into some of the rental market.

1093.641 - 1107.102 Cora Lewis

And the people who use them really are lower income people or people with lower credit scores who are really living paycheck to paycheck and who are looking for this flexibility and a little more time month to month to pay the rent.

1107.082 - 1114.948 Kristen Schwab

You talked to some people for the story who use these tools. How are they using these services to pay rent?

Chapter 7: What strategies are restaurants using to retain customers?

1217.123 - 1251.303 Cora Lewis

In some ways, it shows that a lot of people have already overextended themselves on credit cards and are turning to these products and companies. I think it is a sign of the affordability crisis. These companies exist in the space between that unaffordability and people's Cora Lewis is a business reporter at the Associated Press.

0

1251.804 - 1252.968 Kristen Schwab

Cora, thanks so much for chatting.

0

1253.71 - 1254.893 Cora Lewis

Thanks so much for having me.

0

1268.069 - 1294.414 Kristen Schwab

So rent is up, and we just talked about ways people are navigating that. Also up, and also outpacing inflation, the cost of food, both at home and out. But now, after increasing prices over the last several years, restaurants are trying to lure diners in more often by leaning into meal deals. McDonald's doing it. Taco Bell is doing it. So are fast casual spots like Panera Bread.

0

1294.994 - 1299.559 Kristen Schwab

The industry calls it the value wars. Marketplace's Kaylee Wells has more.

1300.2 - 1316.824 Kaylee Wells

Meal deals make sense at a classic drive-thru because those customers are looking for cheap, fast food. Rich Schenck, vice president of innovation at the food service industry analysis firm Technomic, says the fast casual restaurant traditionally didn't advertise cheap food. It advertised food that was higher quality.

1317.485 - 1326.578 Rich Schenck

It was, we're going to be better, we're going to be fast, and you're going to really enjoy it. And that's really carried that market for a decade or more.

1326.71 - 1333.596 Kaylee Wells

But then there was inflation and rising prices on groceries and utilities and housing taking bigger bites out of our wallets.

1334.217 - 1342.665 Rich Schenck

With this inflationary period sort of hitting its crescendo, you know, that advantage is not fully there anymore for fast casual brands.

Chapter 8: How is AI being integrated into the restaurant industry?

1435.343 - 1448.922 Kaylee Wells

Zagor called this value pricing a war, which means Panera won't be the last to try it out. He expects other fast casual restaurants, think Chipotle or Panda Express, to start doing the same thing. I'm Kaylee Wells for Marketplace.

0

1452.749 - 1473.884 Kristen Schwab

This final note on the way out today, as we continue to parse out whether AI is coming for our jobs, what we do know is that it is, at the very least, policing us at work. Read this in The Verge, Burger King is launching an AI chatbot that will live in the headsets of its restaurant employees. Patty, that's its name.

0

1474.505 - 1491.4 Kristen Schwab

Patty will coach employees on meal preparation, like how many strips of bacon go on a maple bourbon barbecue whopper. It will also evaluate employees' friendliness by recognizing phrases and words like, welcome to Burger King. And if you think you're not being watched at work, think again.

0

1491.44 - 1515.081 Kristen Schwab

According to the Washington Center for Equitable Growth, more than two-thirds of workers are being monitored by AI, a finding consistent across industries and occupations. Our theme music was composed by BJ Lederman. Marketplace's executive producer is Nancy Fargali. Joanne Griffith is the chief content officer. Neil Scarborough is the vice president and general manager. And I'm Kristen Schwab.

0

1515.682 - 1533.331 Kristen Schwab

Have a great weekend. We will see you back here on Monday. This is APM.

Comments

There are no comments yet.

Please log in to write the first comment.