Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Dark Web Criminal Extorts Celebrities, Makes Millions & Shares Legal Loopholes
Fri, 20 Dec 2024
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Chapter 1: What are the loopholes in the dark web?
An unregulated world of loopholes on the internet. I've sold a lot of questionable products. It was a seven-day trial, then you got billed $60 a month forever. You can never cancel. Celebrities tend to drive revenue. I made a lot of money off of Chris Evans, Tony Hawk, Bam Margera. I got close to 500 sites, and I got an offer to sell the network.
I've been on the internet now, making money some way, shape, or form for 12 years. This is when like internet was starting to like be cool. YouTube was starting to become a thing. You know, there was like, you know, Twitter was like brand new back then. There was like a lot of these opportunities. And then I started finding like these little loopholes. Are you familiar with domaining?
Like where you buy domains and sell them? Well, I thought it would be a good idea to find people that I assume were unintelligent and register their Twitter handles and then sell them back to them. Well, I was like, okay, well, who's cash rich? and my lack of some intelligence, browsers.com. So I went to a list on the site.
They listed all the stars on the site and I just registered all their Twitter handles. So I went, okay, you know, Jenny X. And I was like, okay. So I went to Twitter and I registered that name. And I wrote one line that said, if you're interested in purchasing this name, email me here. And I set up a fake Gmail account. Like I was like, I forget what I called it. And that was all it said.
And I did this for every star on the site. I also did it to some of my favorite athletes too that I'm like more so because I was like, yeah, they'll just hit me up and I'll give them their name. No, it was free.
It's free to register a name?
A Twitter name. It was free. Oh, Twitter. I thought these were domain. Formerly known as X, formerly known as Twitter. So this is like Twitter is brand new. I tagged my name. I didn't hide. I just tagged my name and I said, if you're interested in this, email this and we can talk.
and sure enough stars started emailing me hey i'd like to get my name and i said cool 500 bucks right and like one out of five would send it right the other five i just know the other four i never hear from again so and there was like a hundred or so on the site so like it was able to make like i don't even know probably like seven to ten grand ish over the course of like six eight months just selling stars their twitter handles back
And I was like, wow, this is interesting. What other loopholes are there that I can exploit? Because like I'm saving them the time of finding it. And it wasn't really. Yeah, you're doing them a service. Yeah, I was doing them a favor.
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Chapter 2: How did Ryan exploit celebrities' social media?
Did they ever contact you to say, Hey man, I want to buy my website. Like, what are you doing?
Yes. So MTV sent a bunch of angry emails to me. Cease and desist. Cease and desist. I think I got them in the mail, but this is a long time ago. So I'm like, I don't remember if I actually got a physical email, but I got a lot of angry emails. Because I was like, I put that I registered the site. I put me as the author on the page. I wasn't trying to hide.
I had a bio only because those made the sites a little more trustworthy. And there was a bio of the person reviewing the workouts. And it was just printing commissions for me. And I swapped out products here and there, but the visual impact worked really well. To the point where I was selling – the guy ended up contacting me, the owner of the product.
He's like, dude, you're selling like 250, 300 copies a month. He's like, you're like one of my best affiliates. And he ended up sending me a bunch of like – he ended up buying trips for me. He ended up like really treating me well because that's kind of how the affiliate game works. If you've got somebody that's making a lot of money, you take care of them. I was like – This is pretty cool.
But I saw this as like an opportunity because like, well, MTV did get pretty pissed at me. And then they were just like, you know, we need to take the site down. And I actually went to an attorney and I said, do they have any grounds? Because I never really had I never had MTV. I just had Jersey Shore workout.
And because Jersey Shore is like a place like I was like, you don't know the rights to Jersey Shore. But the one they really wanted was the situation workout dot com. They wanted all of them. Are you willing to sell it? I mean, I'm willing to sell it. Well, they tried to strong arm me into giving it to him with cease and desist. I kept saying no.
I went to an attorney and I was like, will I get in trouble if I keep doing this? And he's like, no, they have no grounds because it's a phrase. It's like the situation. Yeah.
It's like saying fast food.
Yeah. You're not saying McDonald's. It's like, you're fine. And I was like, okay. So I just kept saying no. I just kept replying, nope, nope, nope. I'm like waiting for them to offer me some money for these sites. Eventually, they came back because the situation did create a workout DVD. Mm-hmm. And they offer me some lowball number.
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Chapter 3: What was the outcome of Ryan's Twitter handle scheme?
Pete, for whatever reason, when it was there, like, all the cops congregated in front of fucking McDitton's. Right. And it's like they all had nothing to do. They're all just sitting there. Well, the bouncer's like, who's got drugs? And I'm like, you motherfucker. I was like, piece of shit. Why you got to call me out? So I'm, like, running. And I, like, tossed the powder like this.
And it happened to land in the trash can. I was like. And I kept running, kept running. And I, in my mind, I got far enough away to where nobody would know. And then I get tackled by a cop and it's like a whole thing. And now like, I'm not resisting arrest, but now I know I'm like, okay, I'm, you know, and now they're like digging through the trash can. Cause they're like, he threw it.
The bouncer was like, I was like, why is this bouncer not like me? And I'm like, what the fuck did I do to this guy? I was like, just a little bit of powder stuck to my shit. It's all over St. Pete. That's one thing I learned about that. It's everywhere. It's very hard to not see it or know somebody who has it. If you've been introduced to that world, it's everywhere.
And so I'm like, what the fuck? Next thing you know, like I'm on, you know, handcuffed on the front of the car. My friends are like, what the fuck just happened? They don't know. They kind of have an idea. And like, I ended up throwing like my stuff, you know, my phone and stuff. I said, you know, please bail me out. Like, you know, I'm obviously getting arrested.
And the cops are like, then they, it's like, I found it. And I'm like, what did they just pull? They pulled it out of the trash? And then they put it down on the hood of the car and they're like, is that yours? I was like, I don't know. I've never seen that before. What is that? I don't even know what that is. And they're like, yeah, right. They were like jerks to me. Rightfully so. I ran.
I probably deserved it. I ran away. They had to chase me. I don't think the guy was ready for that run. I think I was pretty fast. You know, so I ended up getting arrested. I ended up going like wherever you go, you know, like, I don't know if it was like, it was actually like, I was ended up being there for like 10 hours, maybe, maybe 12, like, I don't know, you know, whatever.
And I'm like, had the call, like, you know, my fiance, Hey, I'm in. And she's like, what the fuck did you have the powder on you? And I said, I'm like, I don't know when all of a sudden I became like an expert criminal at this point. I was like, I was like, babe, I think we should talk about this when I get out. I'm going to assume this is a recorded line. Thankfully, it was a recorded line.
And I ended up getting out. Then I tried to bail myself out because I was back making some money. I had a little bit of money. And I was like, can I just bail myself out? And it was like they looked at me like I was weird. They're like, well, people don't normally do that, I guess. Right. And I ended up having, like, my friend, actually, who gave me the powder, bailed me out.
And then I get out the next morning, and, yeah, sure enough, that was Father's Day. My first Father's Day, I was like, oh, great, cool. Had to catch an Uber back to the house, a nice, long, sobering Uber. And then I come in, and, you know, I was like, yeah, that happened. Basically, the fiance was like, what the fuck? Like, you're an idiot. Like, I said, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got no excuses there.
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Chapter 4: How did Ryan transition from internet scams to legitimate business?
Look this way or you know, like I don't want to be misinterpreted, you know, but like those are the best videos and those videos It's like most like when we start working with somebody, you know when we're charging because like a lot of people can pay us But I'm like, okay.
I'm very resistant on who I work with because I'm like, okay Well, you're like very reserved like you're not talking about the shit It's gonna get you the views that you think you want and then once you do get the views you want I don't know if you can handle the hate that you're gonna get that comes with it. I I say, cause I don't live in a world with sunshine and rainbows on the internet.
Like I make a video, it does well. I get a bunch of hate comments. Like, or I, I trigger somebody in some way. They're pissing me. Like. I got tons of hate. Yeah. Hey, I got tons of them.
Colby likes that. Colby.
You love it. Cause it's not you.
Colby can make me look horrific in a video. Is it Louisa Grant? Like no problem. I was something like every once in a while. Colby he didn't even tell me really anymore sometimes I'll find out that we got a video that's got like two two and a half three million views and I'll be like oh that's it and I'll watch it and I'll be like What were the comments on this?
And I start reading, I'm like, holy Jesus, God almighty. I mean, they are just horrific. And I'm like, this dude is willing to sacrifice.
Matt will be telling a story from someone else, like a scumbag he met in jail and how a piece of a shit he was. But the way it cut up, it's like Matt is doing it. Matt is saying he did this. And they're like, this guy.
Fuck this guy. Like, yeah, no. That... I hate that like, you know, I'm not opposed to it. Like, I mean, we do a lot of it and then what we do, but it's like, I hate, it's like, it makes me so jaded that that's how the internet is. And that's what you have to do. Cause it's like, I look at like some of my friends, I'm like, I mean, you're a really good business owner. Like you're really smart.
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