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Exotic Dancer Becomes Crime QueenPin, Escapes Prison & Builds an Empire | Carolyn Arellano
Thu, 14 Nov 2024
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Chapter 1: What led Carolyn to become an exotic dancer?
I was offered a job in a strip club. My life went from hustling in the club to a legitimate life of crime. I got some people working under me and I remember being a maximum security person and he's like, you're going to escape. I'm like, just come get me. Like, yes. So he was a real one for this. I ended up moving to Newark, New Jersey when my parents had divorced pretty early on.
I think it was like before five years old. And my mother moving there is what kind of put me in that environment where I was, like, introduced to crime. Just being surrounded by, you know, gang members, drug dealers, all kinds of things that you wouldn't want your child to normally grow up around. Pretty much molded me into like the teenager that I was going to be, which was super rebellious.
I almost got into a gang during high school. I was about 15 years old. Thankfully, I didn't go all the way through it. But there was like a lot of drama with even just going to high school every day because of the people that I was like affiliated with and hanging around and dating at the time. So I was a freshman, pretty much dating a senior. So four years difference. And he was in a gang.
So I ended up having a kid with this guy, which was... How old were you? I was actually super young and embarrassing, but I was 15 when I gave birth. So I was, I think I got pregnant when I was about 14 years old with my first child. So yeah, rough beginning. Yeah.
And even crazier, I actually, you know, I kind of almost planned my first kid because I wanted to get away from my mother so bad at that point in my life. At that time, my mom was bipolar, but undiagnosed, which I kind of knew, like, growing up as a kid. But... So she was she was a mess, pretty much. I wanted to get out of the house, met this guy.
I was like, you know, if we have a baby, I can I can leave because she wouldn't let me emancipate myself. I tried going through the courts, didn't work because I didn't have enough money to take care of myself, didn't have proof that I could be an adult because I wasn't ready. But so I end up getting pregnant. doing exactly like I said, end up, you know, saying, well, I'm an adult now.
Like I don't have to be here. Um, end up moving out somehow graduating high school a year early. Um, and actually I graduated high school here early because of a lot of the fighting that I was doing in high school. So I ended up having a fight, one of many in high school with one of these girls and, um, I ended up hitting her pretty hard and she lost her hearing.
So because of that, they put me in night school. I also went to juvie for the first time.
How long? For how long?
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Chapter 2: How did Carolyn's childhood influence her life choices?
Yeah.
So you went to community college and then you moved on to four-year college. You got your degree in accounting.
So that was the plan. I did want to go to college. I did apply to college. I started to go to community college, yes. I thought I wanted to be a teacher because I just wanted to have the weekends off, thought the summers off was going to be nice. And so I started to go to community college to be a teacher. However... On my 18th birthday, I was offered a job in a strip club.
So literally 18th birthday. It just so happened that my aunt worked there. She was a bartender.
Jesus.
You're deep. I know. It's just like, it's a big... It's a movie, but... So I turn 18. My mom and my aunt approach me, who, again, my mom's not well. My aunt is also unwell. And they're living whatever life that they're living. And they're like, you're 18. Like, you can go to work now. So I'm like... like, what am I going to do? Like, you're going to bartend with your aunt. And I'm like, okay.
So I knew she like bartended. I knew it was a club, but, and I, and I had a child at this point already. Right. I had a two year old. So I know, you know, what sex is, but I had never been in a place like this before. Like,
Is this like a raunchy strip club or like a nice, like a gentleman's club?
It was pretty raunchy. It was like, yeah, it was raunchy. It smelled like cigarettes you could smoke back then. I just remember walking in there and it just being so dark that it took like my eyes to focus until a couple of minutes, right? Because I'm like, and then when I can see, I'm like, there's ass and boobs. And I'm just like, oh, my God, what is going on?
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Chapter 3: What were Carolyn's experiences in high school?
I dated a chick that was a stripper for about three years, the whole time she went to college. And she would come home and be like, she would have like the girls that she thought were, you know, they were friendly. Some were more friendly than the others. And every once in a while, one would kind of pull her aside and say, listen. You know, they do the whole, listen, this guy over here.
You know what I'm saying? For this much money, you know, so you'll leave. And, you know, and she would be like, well, how do you even leave? And she'd go, no, no, no, the bouncer. So the bouncer's in on it.
Oh, yeah.
Like they have all these rules. Like you can't accept a business card or a phone number. You can't give them your phone. Like if I see that, like they'll tell you if I see this. But then on the side. If a guy gives him $1,000, he'll let you go home early, walk you to your car, then you drive down the street, meet the guy at a hotel that he's got. You know what I mean?
Oh, yeah.
So she said probably once every couple of months, somebody would go to her and say, listen, this guy over here. And she was like, wow. She's like, it's funny because they'll give you such a hard line.
into your face and to all the girls but behind the scenes the bouncers and the club managers are walking you out to your car to get into a car to drive down the street oh yeah and she and she was at a she worked at a scarlet uh cabaret whatever like it was a scarlet gentleman club it was like an upscale club this wasn't like mons venus this was and if it's happening there it's happening everywhere
Oh, yeah. It's all about the money. Like what's going on behind the scenes? It's like it's definitely it's a cash cow for sure.
There's a veneer of of legitimacy up front.
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Chapter 4: How did Carolyn's relationships impact her path?
And I'm like, hey, who's this?
And that was like... Do you already know like most of his contact? Like have you already kind of been around? Like you've seen, you know, like, okay, we go, we meet. He gets out. He does this. He does that. He comes back. Like you already... Do you know where, what his, do you know who his plug is?
Yes. So this is, I was like, it was like a ride along, I guess. Like I wasn't anticipating it, but yes, I was meeting, you know, the people, his clientele that he was dealing with. I met the plug. I was like friends with the plugs. Girlfriend who was pregnant at the time. So, yeah, I had access to his resources.
So him leaving that bag there and the actual the phone phone, not the one that he actually took with him. I was I was like, OK, the phone rings and it just happened to be this person that lived across the highway from the hotel we had checked in at. And I just remember walking over there and, you know, making that first exchange. And that's when I was like, I'm in business like.
So what was that? Just small? Was it like you made 50 bucks, 200 bucks? Is it like you're?
No. So I was making. So I remember this is like a long time ago. So the prices are I mean, I'm sure they're nothing like what they are now. But back then I'd make I'd spend 300 and I'd make 300. So nice.
Yeah.
Very nice. Right. And it was like it's just a repetitive thing.
And I said, that's that's iPhone. Yeah. You know, that's like their model is they charge double what they have in it. So if an iPhone costs 500 bucks, they're charging a thousand.
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Chapter 5: What challenges did Carolyn face after becoming a mother?
I felt like it was going to happen.
Well, I think growing up in that environment, you see people going to prison. Like for me growing up, we knew in my neighborhood, which is like an upper middle class neighborhood, we knew, I knew of one person who'd gone to prison. He went to prison for three years for laundering money for the mob. And he went to prison. They didn't lose their house. Literally, this was our next-door neighbor.
The husband goes to prison. The wife never moves from the house. The kids stay in school. Three years later, I think he got three years, but I think he only did maybe a year or change. He gets out. He moves back in. And then probably shortly after that, they sold the house and went somewhere else. But yeah, so that was it.
As opposed to guys that grow up in a lower middle-class neighborhood, people are there watching people go to prison all the time and get back out and start over. They're driving. Everybody you know that has money
And this isn't I know you haven't said this, but this is what I get from it just from interviewing people is that you talk to these guys and they're like, look, everybody I know that's making money is selling drugs or robbing drug dealers or robbing banks or doing. But like the only people that have money, right.
The people that I see that are struggling and driving piece of garbage vehicles are people with jobs. because they have lower middle-class jobs. So they're barely able to keep a house over there, I mean, a roof over their head and feed their kids. So they have a crappy car and it's like, this guy struggles all the time, but the dealer over here, he's got a brand new car, this person.
So I can see how it's kind of there.
I was definitely, definitely, and, like, obviously, I'm an adult. I know that everybody makes their own decisions, right? Like, we have the will. We have will. But I will say that I am a firm believer just because of based on what I experience is that people are a product of their environment.
For the most part, yeah.
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Chapter 6: How did Carolyn transition from dancing to a life of crime?
Chapter 7: What were the consequences of Carolyn's criminal activities?
Right. Right.
And if it was a minimum security, there was no fence. Like, right. More like absconding.
Exactly. That's what it was. Actually, it was absconding the charge. So, again, I was like, OK, it's over. Take me back. So rather than, you know, going to like the police station nearby or having to go through the county to get back to prison, like driving to the prison gates. And he's like, are you fucking serious?
And I have two of our friends that were there with us actually had like got a tattoo. So it's like my tattoo artist, my friend who we're all friends. Right. And then my fiance at the time. And he's like, I was like, you know what? Just take me back today. They were like tattooing me. And I'm like, you know, let's just go back today. They're like, what do you mean?
I'm like, right now I have the nerves for it. I'm like, let's just go. And they're like, like right now. I'm like, yeah, drive me to the prison yard. So I'm like. You know, ready to go back at this point because I'm like, I have to face the music. I got to get this over with. I still have like a whole year ahead of me. It's only like six months at this point. So what do I do?
Well, I know how it works in there. Right. The first time. So, of course, I go in there with goodies.
Right.
Right. So tobacco, they were they were slowly phasing tobacco out at this point in the jails in New Jersey. So having tobacco was like having gold.
Yeah.
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