Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Government Cover-Up EXPOSED: UFO Expert Reveals Alien Secrets
Fri, 14 Mar 2025
James Iandoli shares his first hand experiences with aliens and why the government would withhold this information.James Iandoli - Engaging The Phenomenon links: YouTube: https://youtube.com/@EngagingThePhenomenonTwitter/X: https://twitter.com/EngagingThe?t=ifUL2yDM7-_XdrdtLKIaIw&s=09Podcast: https://anchor.fm/engagingthephenomenonLinkTree: https://linktr.ee/EngagingThePhenomenonFollow me on all socials!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/insidetruecrime/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mattcoxtruecrimeDo you want to be a guest? Fill out the form https://forms.gle/5H7FnhvMHKtUnq7k7Send me an email here: [email protected] you want a custom "con man" painting to shown up at your doorstep every month? Subscribe to my Patreon: https: //www.patreon.com/insidetruecrimeDo you want a custom painting done by me? Check out my Etsy Store: https://www.etsy.com/shop/coxpopartListen to my True Crime Podcasts anywhere: https://anchor.fm/mattcox Check out my true crime books! Shark in the Housing Pool: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0851KBYCFBent: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BV4GC7TMIt's Insanity: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KFYXKK8Devil Exposed: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TH1WT5GDevil Exposed (The Abridgment): https://www.amazon.com/dp/1070682438The Program: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0858W4G3KBailout: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/bailout-matthew-cox/1142275402Dude, Where's My Hand-Grenade?: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BXNFHBDF/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1678623676&sr=1-1Checkout my disturbingly twisted satiric novel!Stranger Danger: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BSWQP3WXIf you would like to support me directly, I accept donations here:Paypal: https://www.paypal.me/MattCox69Cashapp: $coxcon69
Chapter 1: What sparked James Iandoli's interest in UFOs?
you know this whole thing started for me again when i was younger it's not just like you hear a voice in your head like where there's a question about it like you feel through your entire body and this is something we can call like a telepathic lock on so i heard he can see us and you know as i heard that i saw this almost what you can call a shadow entity but it was almost scintillating like it had a mild glow to it and
And it collapsed into an orb. So I get in my car, and within a few hundred feet of me driving, right in the sky, right dead center in the sky, there's just a fireball there. And in my mind, I think, holy shit, that's a UFO. As soon as I think that, it starts to move. The crash occurs, and all of a sudden, I'm face-to-face with a light being, right?
For whatever reason, the first impression that I got when I saw this entity was that it was not separate from myself. I saw the past, the present, and the future kind of as like one thing. And then right after that, it flipped into me being above the scene of the accident. And I'm like, I'm thinking... So this is it, huh? Like, I'm thinking that I'm dead.
And I was just, I was totally cool with it. Like, I felt totally at peace. Just like, there wasn't like a regret or care, like, oh no. It was just like totally fine. It was like the most blissed out thing. Equanimity, um... I just felt perfectly at peace.
There's a whole other system of government and bureaucracy that is going on and has been going on for over 100 years on this subject that has compartmentalized itself in such a way as to keep it from scrutiny from those people that believe we're living in an open, transparent democracy.
When they learn about this and they learn this is true and when this is publicly acknowledged officially, it's not that other entities exist and they're interacting with us. Yeah, that's kind of like, wow, that's amazing. But they have to come to terms that they've been lied to, right? Their government lied to them intentionally to keep this away from them. So what else?
Somebody's fucking watching us. We're being watched by higher intelligence and what the hell are they thinking we're doing?
Hey, this is Matt Cox and I am here with James Iandoli and I watched him on a podcast the other day and he's got a really interesting UFO story and kind of an, I'm going to say alien interaction story, but I could be wrong on the specifics of that. So I'm sure he'll correct me. So check out the video. I really appreciate it.
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Chapter 2: What unusual experiences did James have as a child?
You know, this whole thing started for me again when I was younger and I These experiences, I don't want to say necessarily that they were alien. I don't know exactly what they were, but my early experiences happened when I was just a kid and literally in my room. And, uh, you know, the, the whole way it started was, um, what is kind of like jarring, right?
Because the first, um, instant I noticed anything was I, I heard, um, a voice like, and it's not just like you hear a voice in your head, like where there's a question about it. Like you feel through your entire body and this is something we can call like a telepathic lock on. So I heard, um, he can see us, and as I heard that, I saw this almost what you can call a shadow entity, but it was
it was almost scintillating. Like it had a mild glow to it and, and it collapsed into an orb. Uh, and I was absolutely frightened, you know, cause I'm maybe five or six years old when this is happening. And I literally just, um, you know, put the covers over myself and I'm trying to hide that happened maybe a dozen times when I was younger. Um, so because of, and, and,
And other than that, I had spontaneous, what people call out of body experiences. And, you know, back back then, I didn't associate the two together. They just seemed to be different experiences. In retrospect, now, looking back after I've been involved in the research for so many years, you know, there there actually seems to be a connection to all that, like all these experiences.
So can I ask a question real quick? So when you're five or six years old, like was there any any interaction or contact other than them just saying he can he can see us?
I heard... It's really hard to explain. I heard... It almost sounds gibberish, but you could... It interprets through your body somehow. That's the only way I can say it.
You mentioned the movie... The Knowing, yeah. The Knowing, which was a great movie.
Whoever... I don't think that whoever made that movie just made that... They either did really, really intricate research... or they hadn't experienced themselves. Cause that, the way they, that whisper thing happens was exactly like, I got chills when I saw that movie. Um, and that's the same kind of thing, right? Like we, we hear UFO and we think aliens, uh,
But even in that movie, the way it was represented, you know, they had a kind of religious underpinning to it where there are kind of like angelic entities. But in some regards, that's actually closer to the truth.
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Chapter 3: How did a car accident change James's perspective on UFOs?
So I go home, I drive home and I go to sleep and I work an overnight shift. So this, you know, by the time I go to sleep, it's like maybe 830 in the morning or so. And in my dream, when I go to sleep, I have this insane kind of like a you can call it a UFO dream. Right. And in the dream, I'm driving down in my old neighborhood and there's just this like a orange plasma UFO right over my car.
And it's a dream, but I'm like freaking out, you know, like it's pulsing with electricity and stuff. And I can hear like the energetic charge and I can feel the sensations in my body. And it's and I'm freaking out in the dream. I'm just like not thinking. I'm just like I need to get the hell away from this thing. and I'm trying to drive away.
And this is going on for a suburb. I mean, is this some, yes, yes.
A suburb.
So like anybody could walk out of their house and see this thing.
Like, it's not like, yeah, but this, remember this is a dream. This is this right now is a, is a dream.
Oh, okay. Sorry.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. So yeah.
Cause I know that at some point you get in your car.
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Chapter 4: What are the CE5 protocols and how do they work?
Chapter 5: What is high strangeness in relation to UFO sightings?
even more kind of, you know, driven and excited to, to look into UFOs as a more, you know, as a, as a really kind of serious thing, because at this point, I guess you can say I'm, I'm being interacted with, right. I didn't ask for this to happen. The earlier ones either.
And again, like I said, the earlier ones, even at this point, I recall those experiences, but I'm not necessarily tying it to UFOs at that, at that point. So, you know, skip ahead, maybe two to three months, you know, I don't know the exact timeframe, but it was, it was about two to three months. I ended up having this, um, this crazy, you know, I, it's not an NDE cause I didn't, I
you know, a trauma induced out of body experience. So I got into this, um, this car accident and, uh, dirt, you know, when accident happened, all of a sudden that, you know, I'm driving and the next thing I know the accident happens and I'm, I'm like face to face, you know, in, uh, with this, like a light being right, like an entity of light.
How did the accident happen, and when was it, and how did it happen? So I was listening to your interview when I was actually painting, so that's why I think I feel like I must have walked out of the room or something.
That's why I felt like I thought you had come home from work, gone to sleep, couldn't sleep, went to leave, or went to drive around to go to sleep, and that's when you had the accident. Yeah. I guess I missed something, but so what I'm wondering now is when you had the accident, was it in the middle of the night? Were you in a middle of division?
This, this was actually in the daytime. This is because my work schedule is insane. I'm working overnights. And I think at that point I'm working like seven days a week. And so I fell asleep when I was driving basically. Oh, okay. Okay. And, and, uh, this was in daylight. This was, but it was similar. Yeah, I was, it was in the morning, kind of like not quite, not quite noon. Um,
but I fell asleep when I was driving and you know, I didn't realize until afterwards that my car ended up going upside down and basically into a building.
Is this, is this, and this is in the middle of a, uh, like a populated area.
It's like a suburb. Yeah. Okay. So the, and the crazy thing is that this happened and I didn't realize this really, I didn't really think about this until years later, but this happened exactly like to the T exactly where I saw the fireball. Um,
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Chapter 6: How does the government handle UFO information?
And, and, you know, that's what led me on the journey of creating, engaging the phenomenon, you know, which is my YouTube and podcast. I mean, This all happened in 2007, but years later of research and being actively involved in the UFO research community and speaking to different researchers is what led me to create Engaging the Phenomenon.
But I got the impression from this series of contact experiences that people...
you know, the, the, the, the entities themselves, again, they communicated whether, whether it was literally or as a deception or whether my mind some somehow tried to create a reason for it to happen or something is that I, I got the impression that, you know, that the intelligence wanted people to know that they were here. And, and again, you know, they said they were related to us.
I don't know if that's true. Um, But I wanted people to know that this was all real because now I had these experiences and I know for a fact that this is something that's genuine. So I felt compelled to get involved in the research community publicly at that point. and to share information. Um, but I also realized that I can't, like, I can't just tell somebody about this experience, right?
Like I can tell somebody, but it's not going to have the impact, you know, you're not, it's not, you're not going to have that switch go off in your head unless you have this kind of experience, right? Like even, even if, um, you're convinced UFOs are real, um, Having a direct experience like that is going to change you.
It's going to transform your worldview, the way you see yourself, the way you look at the universe. Because all of a sudden, within a few moments, you now have to reconsider everything that you thought you knew was true. And you're like, holy shit, if this if this is true, you know, what what else did I get? What else is true that that I'm not quite sure about. Right.
So it has that kind of like paradigm shift and it opens your awareness up to so many other possibilities at that point.
Isn't this is also like the first time that was the first time that you actually, you know, you, you know, it's not in your head, like your pet, your family members came out and saw it. So it's like, okay, this isn't just me.
Yeah.
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Chapter 7: What theories exist about the nature of UFOs?
What he's talking about is authentic. I'm like, okay. I started researching all his work. I read his books. He has guided practices for what he calls the CE5 protocols. Just to clarify too, there are other groups who did similar things in earlier years, but this is what I came across first. I started doing the CE5 protocols And I got responses, right? It was working.
It wasn't like the experiences that I had when it was just kind of like they spontaneously happened to me. It wasn't on that level of impact, I guess you want to say, or it wasn't as crazy or dramatic. But sure enough, if you go out, you do the protocols, which...
To do a quick overview of what's known as the CE5 protocols is you basically do some kind of meditation where you're going to get in a calm and tranquil state. And then you use what's called remote viewing, which if anybody's interested in remote viewing, look up the CIA's program, Project Stargate.
and how the US Department of Defense and the US military both studied and utilized remote viewing, which is basically being able to use your consciousness to see a distant time or space. And the government was using this to gain intelligence. And they got some pretty serious hits when they did it, meaning they were able to acquire certain information that could have not otherwise been known.
And that project went on for 22 years. But anyways, so you're, you're doing meditation. and you do what people, you know, you can call remote viewing. If you don't believe you can remote view, you can do like a kind of visualization of, you know, seeing some kind of UFO or an ET craft, as Dr. Greer would say, in deep space or around the earth or wherever, and you're using kind of like,
a visual, a visualization or remote viewing vector to draw them back to your location, like in a seamless sequence. And that's what he calls coherent thought sequencing, which is part of the C5 protocol. And, you know, sure enough, if you practice anything enough, you're going to get good at it. And it becomes more automatic.
You don't have to sit there and intentionally, you know, it becomes less mechanical. Um, so when you, you get pretty good at the process eventually over time and you know, again, you do it enough times you're, it's like, you know, throwing a rock at a target a thousand times, eventually you're going to hit the bullseye.
So I was doing, I was doing this on a very regular basis, probably more than I should have because I was so impacted by the other encounters. And I was also thinking like, why didn't I think of that? Right. Like it's so like, if I was having these encounters and having this kind of direct mental or telepathic connection, like why wouldn't I think to do that? Right. So sure enough,
I got pretty good at it and I was able to have regular responses. Right. Which could vary in all different types of ways. Some could be more dramatic or some can just see you see a light in the sky that will stop and then move in another direction. And, you know, or flashes of lights or, you know, a more kind of.
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Chapter 8: How does public perception influence UFO disclosure?
You know, they're, they're supposed to be making a followup Netflix series or something to that. Oh man.
What? Wow.
John Carpenter. Yeah. I hope so. I hope so.
You know, that was, that was a great, that was a great, cause when he puts on those glasses and you realize like, oh wow, we're, we're just like, we're like clueless Disney world. And we have for, for these beings.
Well, I'm glad you brought that up for several accounts is number one. is like, yeah, like we, we see a UFO and we think, we think we're so smart and we know what it is. Right. And like, just as an example, right. So crash retrievals are a big subject. Now, David crush, uh, who is a highly credible former intelligence officer has come forward.
Um, you know, he put an official intelligence community inspector general complaint about how this issue is being mishandled and, and illegally hidden information.
from congress and oversight about crash retrievals and that happened in the the ufo or uap hearing that happened a few weeks ago in congress by the oversight committee but just let's just say all that's true right let's say that we you know roswell is real and and there's a few other incidents that occurred that are that are real and we have these craft and we even have bodies right
That doesn't mean we know where they're from. That does not mean we know where they're from or even what they are.
Or you could even conceptualize where they're from or what dimension or what planet.
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