Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Innocent Man Falsely Charged with Murder ( The Real Story )
Thu, 16 Jan 2025
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Chapter 1: What led to the tragic night?
So she goes back home and she's like, I'm going to just make sure he doesn't come back. I told her, I was like, maybe we can try to change the locks really quick if you can. I mean, you know, get somebody over there to do it. But I didn't hear from her for a couple hours at that point. And so, but I didn't, I wasn't worried because he wasn't there also.
Right.
And another thing, and I told her, I was like, anything, you know, value or whatever, get it. We'll get it back over here. That way you don't take nothing. I'd only met this guy one time throughout their process of seeing each other. It was very quick. It was at a gas station. It was a couple exchanges. It wasn't hostile. And that was it.
So I knew nothing about him, his character, his background or nothing other than to that point what she had told me once we started to reconcile. So I'm over at a friend of mine's house again in the neighborhood. We're hanging out, we're sitting over there at their house and I'm trying to call her phone and I can't get nothing. Can't get nothing. Can't get nothing. Finally, my neighbor calls.
Now this is the neighbor that when I told you we went to their house before the other guy unalived himself, he calls my phone. He's like, are you home? And I was like, well, I'm not home, but I'm in the neighborhood. And he's like, hey, he's like, if you come by my house and you see Liam's car here, he's like, don't stop. And I'm like, all right.
I was like, you're going to tell me a little bit more. We're like, why are you saying that? And he's like, well, something's going on between him and your wife. He's like, I don't know what it is, but I'm trying to figure it out. Well, I know what's wrong, but I don't know why he's involved in it. So what had happened, and I found all this out after the fact, what had happened is he did come back.
He got pissed. He made her get in the car. Ja, genau. So he rides by that friend of mine's house, and I guess they pull up, or she does, and he comes out, and he comes up to the window, and he said, I seen him in the passenger seat, and said, he was like, hey, you know, what's going on, guys? And he said, oh, we're looking for Chip, because when I find him, I'm gonna fucking kill him.
And they call me Chip. Some people call me Chip. And so that's what he called me. Und er ist so, oh, du weißt, was los ist. Er versucht, herauszufinden, was los ist, was passiert, weil er nichts weiß. Er weiß, dass wir uns verabschieden, aber er weiß nicht, dass er die News hat oder warum.
Er weiß nicht, dass das der Tag ist.
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Chapter 2: What happened during the car accident?
They would never send me on those jobs, because you had to have a clean background. But they would send me on everything else. So I know they knew, but they never mentioned it, which... ist großartig, aber auf eine Art und Weise war es schlimmer, weil jeden Tag war ich so, ist das ein Tag, an dem er mich anrufen wird?
Richtig, ich wollte sagen, während dieser drei-monatigen Periode, bevor du bis zu diesem Punkt gekommen bist, dachte ich, ist es jeden Tag, an dem du anrufst, denkst du, ist das ein Tag? Ist das ein Tag?
Ja, nachdem das war, war ich so, werden sie mich anrufen? Wieso hast du mir das nicht gesagt? Warum hast du mir das nicht gesagt? Richtig. But I think what it was, I had established myself, I was never late. I was always there, done whatever they needed, worked overtime, would show up early.
I think they kind of knew I was a good guy, even though they didn't know the whole story, because at this point I hadn't been doing podcasts or anything, they didn't know the whole story. And I never talked to them or told it to them either. So I guess they just, you know, rolled with it.
But it was still hell, not being able to know if I was going to get fired any day in there, because they found out. So I worked there from, I'd say, 2018, right after it happened. This was less than a month after I got out of jail, I was there. And I worked there all the way to 2020.
Now, in regards to the case, what's going on is we're going ahead and trying to put everything together for a immunity hearing, or what he calls a Duncan hearing, based on self-defense and castle law. So the first thing that we have is discovery hearing. So we have that. And that's not where you can bring out evidence or whatever.
It's basically the cops are just saying, hey, this is why we charged him. So it's the detective that's on the case and my lawyer. He ate her alive. During that discovery hearing. To the point to where the judge almost tossed it. Like she even said at the end, she's like, while there's not a lot here to support this charge, given the circumstances, I am going to bind it to trial. This was in...
I think June. So the shooting happened in April. Preliminary hearing in June. So the next step now is to go to trial. But my lawyers always already said, we're going to say, all right, we want an immunity hearing based on self-defense and the castle law. If we have that and we win it, there is no trial. You're done. You're protected from everything. That's our next step.
So he has his forensics investigator from New York. They fly to the house. They go in the house. They set up the little lasers that you see on like the CSI things or whatever, you know, that shows the bullet path trajectory. Right. So when we were locked up and I shot him the three times, one bullet stayed in him. Two came out.
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