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Insane RDAP Stories: The Dark Side of the Prison Drug Program

Sat, 16 Nov 2024

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Chapter 1: What is RDAP and how does it work?

230.008 - 240.25 Zach

I mean, the halfway, anyway, Obama kind of ruined that. The halfway house used to have one person. They'd have 10 people in one bed, and they charged 10 people to be there.

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240.99 - 261.598 Matt Cox

And he's like, you can't do that anymore. Here's what halfway houses were doing. they would have an inmate would get out of prison, go to a halfway house and they would charge them for the government for that bed. Let's say you're charging $100 a day for that inmate. Then they would put the inmate on an ankle monitor and so they monitor him at home

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262.498 - 274.548 Matt Cox

And then they would tell the Bureau of Prisons, hey, we have another bed available. They would then put another inmate in that bed, get another $100. So now they're getting $200 for the same bed. They would then move that guy to home confinement. They'd say, hey, we got another bed available.

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275.228 - 291.481 Matt Cox

So they end up having 10 people in one bed getting paid $1,000 a night for one guy in one bed when really these guys are all on an ankle monitor at home. And so Obama came through and said, what are you guys doing? I feel like you're taking advantage of the system.

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293.415 - 300.458 Zach

For us, for those that are in prison, it was heaven because halfway houses are like, come on, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more.

300.938 - 312.242 Matt Cox

So guys could get 10 months, a year. But the problem is when they did that, they no longer had the bed availability. And so people that could have gotten a year ended up getting four months, three months.

312.262 - 321.145 Zach

Oh, it shut down the halfway houses for about eight. It was almost impossible to get in a half. When he made that adjustment, it was almost impossible to get in a halfway house for almost a year.

321.505 - 341.244 Matt Cox

Yeah, I went from like my halfway house time was adjusted like three different times. I even had one time literally my mom thought she's coming to pick me up in like a week. And when I went in there to say, hey, my family's mailing in stuff. Did you guys get it yet? And they were like, you're not leaving for two months. I was like, no, no, I have my date. They were like, oh, no, that changed.

341.784 - 345.042 Matt Cox

When did that happen? Right. So, yeah, anyway, I'm sorry.

Chapter 2: What are the differences between penitentiary and low security prison experiences?

1275.127 - 1292.378 Matt Cox

Yeah. Well, the Spanish also had one TV in the big room. There's like eight TVs. They had one TV there because they were a little bit larger than the white guys. So we're in the I'm in the white TV room. And this guy, we would watch TV and stuff. And he would, you know, people start talking. You're watching whatever fishing shows and stuff that I couldn't stand. Right.

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1292.418 - 1305.064 Matt Cox

Like you're watching, you know, deadliest catch. And it's like, oh, God. So you're sitting there, and people, they talk. A guy came and said, yeah, man, I just got my halfway house. I'm leaving in two months. Oh, man, that's good. Good for you, bro. Good for you. And then this guy's name was Billy.

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1305.084 - 1323.333 Matt Cox

And Billy would suddenly say something like, yeah, I don't know where – I don't even think I'm going to take halfway house. Well, back then, with his charge, you couldn't take halfway house in Florida. You can now, but you couldn't then. So he goes – and I was like – he's like, yeah, I'm not sure where I'm going to go when I get out. I go, well, I know where you're not going to go. And he goes –

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1324.694 - 1329.118 Matt Cox

And he looked at me, go where I go anywhere near a church, a daycare or an elementary school.

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1329.518 - 1330.519 Billy

Fuck you, Cox.

1330.839 - 1348.097 Matt Cox

Fuck you. And he everybody would laugh and he'd be like, you're a piece of shit. Fuck you. I'm like, yeah, but I get to live where I want, you know, and he said, but this is a big guy, too. He's six foot tall, you know, but we also kind of just always joked around. Right. And I would always joke around about stuff that people didn't think was funny.

1348.318 - 1360.088 Matt Cox

So one time we're sitting there watching TV, and he was just a weird – the guys were weird. So what he's going to say, you're probably not going to think, ah, that's not too weird because they say weird things. So you're watching TV, but anybody watching this is going to be like, that's a weird thing to say.

1360.469 - 1377.422 Matt Cox

So you're watching TV, and there was a chick walking down the beach, and he goes – he's behind me, and he goes, well, you wouldn't know what to do with that, would you, Cox? And I go – Shit, I got a better chance of hitting that than you do. And he goes – he said, hell, I want to fuck something. He said, I'll knock your ass out and fuck you like that. And I go, shoot.

1377.442 - 1388.909 Matt Cox

I said, I'm a little bit young for you. I said, plus I have my GED. I go, plus I have my high school diploma. He just gets up and bam! I like to put my hand like he punched me, but he didn't. He bitch slapped me. So he bam! And I mean –

Chapter 3: What are the consequences of failing the RDAP program?

2072.42 - 2094.727 Matt Cox

Like he was a real – but he straightened up in RDAP. Like, we'd give him a hard time in the unit, but he was a whole go fuck yourself. But Nardap, he straightened up. So I'm looking at this guy. He'd been there three, four months before me. And I'm looking at this guy thinking, did a crackhead, a crackbaby crackhead just tell me how to live my life? Like, are you serious?

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2094.747 - 2118.521 Matt Cox

Like, bro, you eat with your hands. I've seen you chewing on your toenails. Like you're a disgusting human being. And I was – and I had to turn to him. I was like – Yeah, all right. Yeah, good talk, bro. Good talk. Like, I'd just gotten there. I don't know anything. So I leave. But that was the kind of thing, like, you would type. You'd be typing.

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2119.521 - 2136.086 Matt Cox

And then you'd get up to leave, and somebody would say, by the way, bro, I noticed that you didn't go to the bathroom and wash your hands before you were typing on the computer. And, you know, we all use those computers. So it's important that we keep each other clean. It's a clean environment. And you're like, what?

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2138.004 - 2160.962 Zach

Yeah, well, they got on me for the ice machine had broken down, and so there was no ice. Well, there was a little bit of ice on the bottom, and they had taken the scoop. I guess the guard, it's like, hey, the ice machine's not working. They took the scoop. So I took my cup. The ice that was left and scraped it out of the back of the bottom corner. And I actually got a help up for that.

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2161.022 - 2179.415 Matt Cox

Help up. So. So, yeah. So that's the point is that. So somebody comes to you and they say, hey, stop. Like, hey, I noticed that you did this. Like typically the proper protocol is to go to that person and say, hey, I notice this is what's happening. You confront them. Confront and level. You confront that person. They then – if they're receptive and they go, you know what, man?

2179.535 - 2197.33 Matt Cox

I appreciate you telling me that. I didn't realize that. You're right. You're absolutely right. That was wrong. And if they feel okay with that, like, yeah, he was good with it, then that's it. It ends. But if you didn't do that or if he felt like you weren't receptive, then the next day or within a week or so, he could –

2198.277 - 2213.931 Matt Cox

In the morning meeting, they get to a point in the morning meeting where they say, are there any pull-ups or help-ups? And people would raise their hand. And so you stand up and you say, excuse me, Isaac Allen, Mr. Allen, and then you'd stand up and we would be facing each other.

2214.56 - 2214.78 Billy

Right.

2215.0 - 2230.286 Matt Cox

And they say, well, what's it about? I say, well, and then there was a protocol. I forget exactly what it was. They basically say, hey, two days ago I was in the ice room. The guard had taken the scoop. The ice machine was broken. I noticed that you went, you leaned it in the thing, you scooped up the last bit of ice with your cup.

Chapter 4: How do inmates react to the RDAP program?

4933.781 - 4951.204 Zach

Because she was- Yeah, but she kind of had a little belly and she looked dirty. Somebody told me, someone had a perfect example of her. They said she's cute, but it looks like if she kicked her shoes off, her feet would stink. I'm going, how perceptive.

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4951.304 - 4974.842 Matt Cox

When I met her, like I'd seen her- Would you agree with that though? No, but I would have before I met her and talked to her. Because when I talked to her, here's what her thing was. To me, she's about a six, right? Five or six. When you talk to her, she jumped up to like an eight. Well, she's intelligent, but she didn't look disheveled. I never saw her feet.

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4975.475 - 4987.124 Zach

No, not her feet. Not disheveled. I mean, did her hair look like it wasn't? No, she had straight, long, black hair. Right, but is it like she kept it up or did she just do it together in the morning? Yeah, I thought she looked fine.

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4987.204 - 4994.65 Matt Cox

She always looked disheveled. No, not to me. And she was, listen, but manipulative, like you can't believe. Like, I mean.

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4995.39 - 4998.674 Zach

We're not talking about the same kind of a pot belly, a little bit of a belly.

4998.814 - 5022.241 Matt Cox

I don't remember any pot. There's no pot belly. Brian, I just told you. She's a six. Like I said, on the street, she's a six. In prison, she's a nine, maybe a ten. Yeah, I agree. She was attractive. Yeah. Yeah, she was probably 110 pounds. She used to be married to him. Was she divorced? Divorced from a basketball player. Like a guy who was like a professional basketball player. Not a big time.

5022.261 - 5032.843 Matt Cox

It had to be the same one. Indian descent? Yeah. Indian, black, and Indian. Probably mixed. She was mixed. Mean. It could be mean as shit. Oh, yeah. She could be brutal.

5032.923 - 5034.024 Zach

I wonder if it's the same one.

5054.773 - 5054.753 Billy

15, 16?

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