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Chapter 1: How did Jason Votrobek start his criminal activities?
We're profiting $4 million a month. Government says I can do this. They're giving us a license, allowing us to run this operation. CVS, Walgreens, Rite Aid, every time they get in trouble for doing the same thing I did, they pay a $60 million fine. At this point, I already knew that they were going to get me.
The attorney told me to stack as much money away as you can, because no matter what, you're going to get the same amount of time. I was born and raised in Vero Beach, Florida. By the age of 15 is when I started my criminal activities. So I started dabbling into green a little bit. I didn't smoke it, but I sold it.
And so some of the guys that I was selling it to, they were in this little ring of like stealing stuff and selling it or whatever. Well, they had these four wheelers they would steal because they were poor. They didn't have no money to buy them. So they would like steal them and hide them in the woods because I lived out west of town, west town of where I live.
is like outside the you know little town that i was in where it's like dirt roads and woods a lot and so we'd all go out there when they went around and ride the stuff or whatever and i had these guys and they were wanting to buy the stolen stuff so i hooked them up with these boys you know buying the stolen stuff and they had stole this dirt bike uh from this boy named zach rose and later on he's gonna become the guy that got me put in prison for the second time
So I had purchased the plastics off of it. Cause I liked the graphics and stuff to put on my dirt bike, not thinking that it would ever come back and bite me in the ass. I'm young. So I purchased it and I, um, put them on my dirt bike and then the word got around town. So he turns me in, you know, whatever that turns me in, but wants to come get his stuff.
Cops are called and it unravels this big thing that they've been looking for. These guys that are stealing because somebody else had got caught with a stolen four-wheeler link back to them. And I didn't know that they were already cooperating and talking and they already had dropped my name, but then it collaborated with Zach and then how it came back to bite me.
And they tried to pin all the stolen stuff on me. So this is where like where my whole criminal stuff started. And by the age 16 years old, I took it to trial because it was like the end of my 15. And the pot thing didn't last very long because of, you know, my criminal trial troubles coming. So what happened was, is I took it to trial because they were trying to pin all this stuff on me.
These boys were like using me as a scapegoat because I was the only one got caught with stolen stuff. Besides one of the guys they sold one of the four wheelers to, he got caught.
Right.
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Chapter 2: What led to Jason's first arrest?
And their dad, I don't know if you remember, back when Escobar was feuding with all the other ones, just like the Mexicans do, what did they do? They kidnapped family members and kill them and do all kinds of stuff. So he sent his wife and his kids over here to go to school in America, like many other ones did back then in the 80s.
So I didn't realize I went to school with somebody that was related to the Cali cartel. And I found out through somebody else, and they plugged me in. And so I was like, okay, we'll just go to Columbia. So we went to Columbia. You're not going to Columbia?
No.
to columbia to go hang out with to go look for drug dealers that seems like a really good way to get kidnapped well i mean i've gone to mexico and smuggled across mexico when i was 19 years old went to laredo and that was pretty wild uh i've been to bahamas scored and been coming across um no i'm not doing any of that I was young and wild.
I'm getting a job. No. I'm going to get... I could sell cars.
But it was like... It was like high for me. It was like an addiction. You know what I'm saying? I'm a thrill junkie. I like doing dumb stuff. That could go bad. Yeah, but I was... It was worth it. I was... I was... It was kind of exciting. But I will tell you, it was pretty intimidating. So the first time we flew down there, so we scheduled a meeting to go down. I don't know who I'm meeting.
I don't know nothing. I just know that I'm going there too. Can I say one more thing? Look at you.
You're in your early 20s. Early 20s. At this point, what are you, six foot? Yeah, I'm six foot. Six foot, blonde hair, blue eyes. Fair skin. Yeah. Or they hate your guts, bro. They do. Like they hate, like you're, you're, you're the quintessential American asshole that we, we just despise.
Well, that's what I'm gonna tell you the story.
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Chapter 3: How did Jason transition from drug dealing to running pain clinics?
So we have our own pharmacy inside the pain clinic.
Yeah.
So I'm like, okay, well, I don't care. I'm like, whatever. I'm like, let's do it. You know, like I'm in, it is what it is. I'm already invested in. I'm not going to get my money back. So let's just do it.
um at this point it's what after 2008 so this is in 2009 so you know as well as i know 2008 the economy crashed 2009 literally my business that i had off to the side uh the other two businesses pretty much are not doing anything like um they're literally they're in construction i worked for asphalt companies yeah i cleaned up all the tacking asphalt behind all the asphalt companies made a lot of money and now the asphalt companies went from having like
five or six asphalt crews to one that don't even work 40 hours a week. And other ones were working seven days a week. Right. And so I was cleaning up money on that and everything else. So I get into, I tell Zach, let's do it. You know, I'm thinking like, damn, dude, these boys are making this kind of money. Like they were killing it. So I'm like, dude, let's get into it. Like, let's do it.
But I'm like, let's do it legit. And he's like, no, no, no. There's so much money to be made in this legit. He's like doing it the way Vinny can. He says he's not going to last long. Like, he's an idiot. Like, he's literally going to last maybe a year. Okay, who wants to do that and go to prison over it? He's like, there's so much money here, Jason. We can retire on this. We can live a life that –
that we can't even spend off of doing it legit. And I'm like, okay. Well, Zach never had intentions to do it legit. I mean, Zach's another fucking Vinny, if you want to be clear. Anyway, so Zach is at this point is like, we got to figure out all the ins and outs of everything. I got to tie up all the loose ends. So he brings in the one guy to start understanding the in-house suspensory.
He wants to learn everything, get a copy of all the paperwork, understand how it's all done. So he's getting coached by somebody who's been doing it for Vinny for a minute. And then Zach's working on the business aspect end of it. Okay. So I'm going to financially back everything. So, cause Vinny's not going to pay him. He's going to screw him.
Just like Zach took that out of the playbook and did it to me. So what we're doing is Zach's learning ins and outs. The main issue of it all is not opening the clinics, getting the license. It's the pharmaceutical companies. So the pharmaceutical companies just don't want to deal with anybody. So writing the scripts and seeing the patients barely make any money.
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Chapter 4: What strategies did Jason use to avoid law enforcement?
Chapter 5: How did the opioid crisis influence Jason's operations?
Our first day, we made $25,000 profit first day. Okay. Second day, we made 50. We kept doubling it. Within the first couple months, we were literally bringing in about – we were opening up clinics so fast. We were getting other locations. We had more doctors than we knew what to do with.
Are you having problems with the local businesses and the police?
Not right this second. We were opening up so fast. I mean, within months, we had three clinics up and running. Jacksonville became a problem, and I'm going to explain why. Okay. So everything's growing so fast. Jacksonville only had six designated parking spots because it was like a building that had a bunch of things, you know, how they had the little parking spots. So it became an issue.
So we didn't even have no parking spots for the staff. So now the extra neighbors are getting mad because they're parking in their spots and everything else. So then became an issue where the guy across the street started renting his parking spot. You know, renting out his parking lot and had somebody out there and he's charging. Right. And he's making good money on all these parking spots.
Like everybody around us starts making money off of our operation. Right. So, um, at beginning they wasn't mad. We were really trying to fix the issues. Like whenever somebody had a problem, we went and dealt with it. We talked to them and really tried to make the neighbors happy because we knew that was going to be a problem.
So, you know, you hear the stories about Zach and them saying like, all you did was just sweep the parking lot. You know what I'm saying? So it was like, yeah. And I told him on time, well, I guess his parking lot sweeping the parking lot was a good thing to be found not guilty. Yeah. Because when the night ended, everybody just wanted to count the money and leave. Like everybody wanted done.
Like I was the guy out there going around to everybody else's parking lots, you know, cleaning up all the trash, making things, you know, overseeing all the other stuff. So nobody cared about nothing besides the money. It was just like money just literally started making the money. And it's just like the recklessness just went to the roof. It all started out, let's do it right.
And then it was just like, oh, if we can make $50,000 a day, can we make $100,000? So then it was like, let's let the drug dealers come in. So then I started finding out that a bus, Chris Legg, it's on my indictment, brings a bus with like 30, 40, 50 people in from Kentucky, Ohio. Chris Legg.
Chris Legg?
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Chapter 6: What were the consequences of Jason's business decisions?
Just like in Florida, I had recordings of my co-defendants. So one of my main co-defendants had wrote a statement to my attorneys and had it notarized because everybody was going to trial besides Jesse. And Jesse, when I found out he cooperated when he did his debriefing, I got it and I called him off another phone like, hey, man, because we're not allowed to talk to you.
I'm like, dude, why are you lying? Why are you saying this? I still got it recorded on my phone right now. I've been waiting to leak it. He's like, man, I didn't say that. I didn't say that. Trust me, I didn't say them things. I'm like, yeah, but you need to get this fixed. He's like, dude, I'm going to call my attorney and get this stuff changed. I didn't say that. It's not what happened.
I'm like, why are you saying that this, this, and that? I didn't say it. I didn't say it. My attorney's like, good, we got this. Now we can get him on the stand. We can bust him up too. So when Tar gets on the thing, the one that wrote the statement, she gets up there. And my attorneys are not doing nothing, not asking another questions.
And like, they're asking a little bit, but not like the stuff that we have. So the judge asked for a break, you know, for the staff to, you know, the jurors to go use, you know, a restroom break. And I look around like, where's my attorney? Cause you know, I'm complaining to my mom and them. I look back and he's not there. So we have a conference room.
Each attorney gets their own like conference rooms, go back to do your paperwork and, you know, talk, you know, off the record. And we walk, I walk in and it's my attorney and her attorney. And I walk into his attorney, tell my attorney, I thought you're going to take it easy on her so she can keep her plea deal. So I went after my attorney. I wear the fight. I'm right there on the spot.
Another attorney got in between and cause a big scene. And it was a big deal. Like we had to have a motion hearing over it and they kept them on, which is crazy.
They wouldn't let you fire your attorney.
Yeah. They kept them on. We won out of like probably 200 objections. We won one objection during the whole trial. Every time we objected, they wouldn't even listen or not. Basically, my attorneys got tired of objecting because it looked so bad. I did four mock jury trials. I paid for four mock juries. It probably cost me like $200,000 to do mock jury trials. So I would stage church.
That's how we were learning how to fight these cases. So I did these things. I had juror consultants. I paid another $50,000 just for somebody to sit there and watch the juror to help, you know, all that stuff. Like send notes all the time. Get off that subject. Stay on this one. That one's good. Stay off this one. Like send notes nonstop to my attorneys to know what to do.
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Chapter 7: What ultimately led to Jason's downfall?
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