
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Picasso of Thieves: Secrets of an Art Heist Genius
03 Jan 2025
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So how long were you painting and doing this? 35 years. Are you serious? 35 years? I mean, how often were you taking stuff? All the time.
Right. The addiction got so bad, Matthew. And the thing is that when something becomes so easy, and I'm going to tell you, this is all psychological. This has nothing to do with whatever you may think it is. This is all psychological game. The planning, what you're going to pick out. the people in the room, who could possibly get blamed besides myself? Because I'm a clean-cut guy.
You put me up against an Irish guy that I was working with that's drinking all the time and comes in Monday morning, it's obvious he took it. You know?
Hey, this is Matt Cox. I am going to be interviewing Picasso. He is an art thief that was tremendously successful, and he did it in a really interesting, unique way. And I'm actually going to be going to the premiere of a movie or a documentary about him. And so let's go ahead and check out the interview. Let's start at the beginning. Where were you born?
I was born and raised in Brooklyn, New York, Sunset Park, to be exact.
And, I mean, how were you raised, you know, middle class, lower middle class, upper middle class?
We were below poverty level, specifically. My dad wasn't in my life, so it was just my mom. My mom had myself, my little brother, and my two older sisters. So it was, you know, she was on food stamps, but she worked. But, you know, we would wake up sometimes without food.
food in the refrigerator and it was hard it wasn't easy okay so what did you so do you graduate high school or did you i went straight from high school which was uh fort hamilton high school to uh kingsborough community college and then i attended a business school at york business school in manhattan okay you know my thing was my thing uh matthew uh was that uh
After my father left, I had a really traumatic incident with my father. My father was an alcoholic and he verbally and physically abused my mother. So after he left, he left when I was six. But at the age of 10, I realized that I couldn't let my mother... you know, struggle alone. So I got a job with the daily news as a paper boy. You know, I did the hustle. I learned really early in my life.
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