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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

U.S. Marshal Fired After Revealing Government Corruption

Sat, 28 Dec 2024

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Robert Ledogar (former U.S. Marshal) shares his disturbing story of being fired for exposing sexual harassment within the department. Despite 20+ years of service, he was subsequently setup by his college's and terminated. Follow me on all socials! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/insidetruecrime/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mattcoxtruecrime Do you want to be a guest? Send me an email here: [email protected] Do you want a custom "con man" painting to shown up at your doorstep every month? Subscribe to my Patreon: https: //www.patreon.com/insidetruecrime Do you want a custom painting done by me? Check out my Etsy Store: https://www.etsy.com/shop/coxpopart Listen to my True Crime Podcasts anywhere: https://anchor.fm/mattcox Check out my true crime books! Shark in the Housing Pool: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0851KBYCF Bent: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BV4GC7TM It's Insanity: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KFYXKK8 Devil Exposed: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TH1WT5G Devil Exposed (The Abridgment): https://www.amazon.com/dp/1070682438 The Program: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0858W4G3K Bailout: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/bailout-matthew-cox/1142275402 Dude, Where's My Hand-Grenade?: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BXNFHBDF/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1678623676&sr=1-1 Checkout my disturbingly twisted satiric novel! Stranger Danger: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BSWQP3WX If you would like to support me directly, I accept donations here: Paypal: https://www.paypal.me/MattCox69 Cashapp: $coxcon69

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Chapter 1: What happened to the female U.S. Marshal?

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Right.

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And she was, she's an army veteran. She's a U.S. Marshal. And these guys did not want to take orders or directions from her. Well, one of these task force officers, local cop, urinated in her cookies. That man at one point grabbed her in the office when she was trying to walk by and started almost groping her and just feeling her up. Other people saw it. And they laughed. She felt embarrassed.

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She was crying. She was humiliated. She left. So then she called me and it went from these accusations, these complaints, these charges to these guys controlling an investigation and investigating themselves. And keep in mind while all this is going on, I have some of the biggest cases of the world I'm working. I'm part of... The investigation, arrest, extradition, and trial of El Chapo.

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I'm a drug dealer. I'm a drug addict. I sell drugs. I steal drugs from the evidence locker. I steal money from the evidence locker. I sell social security numbers to her for fake ID. So while this is all going on, my wife's like, I want out of here. How many times do you hear people, men, you know, you mess with my family, I'll kill you. Really? Really? You're going to do that?

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You're not going to do it. Everybody talks a big game. I had to do something.

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Hey, this is Matt Cox and I am here with Bobby Ledecker. He is a former U.S. Marshal.

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Yes.

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And he's got an interesting story and we're gonna go over it real quick. So, check out the interview.

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I'm originally from Queens, New York, Rockaway Beach, my whole life. I went to grammar school there and then high school. And after high school, I went in the Navy for about seven years. I was... military police but in a navy that's called Master at Arms. I served in Desert Storm and I became a military police investigator and then became a instructor for shipboard security engagement tactics.

Chapter 2: How did the harassment escalate in the workplace?

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So, she would put them on her desk and share it with everybody. Well, one of these task force officers, local cop, urinated in her cookies and left it there. And she knew, you could smell it. Yeah. What's the issue? Like, why did they... Well, it came out and she was a female.

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Right.

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And she was, she's an army veteran, she's a US Marshal and these guys did not want to take orders or directions from her. They just did not want to deal with her. They wanted to be, it was an all guys group out there.

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Right.

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The icing on the cake is she was a lesbian and she was an open person. She spoke about she was gay and she had a girlfriend and they did not

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want that in their group they didn't want to they didn't want to be part of that but this girl she her name's out there dawn um she was well known well liked the courthouse everybody in there loved her she was um she was athletic played softball soccer she participated everything she was you know a fun person to have around

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How many guys are there here that are doing this? Is it three or is it six?

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I mean, is there like... It was up there, it was four to six guys that were messing with her and it got to a point where she brought it to my attention and then I confronted the supervisor that was out there running, handling those guys. And he just ignored it. He said, you know, suck it up. You know, he's not here to be a babysitter. When in fact you are, you're the supervisor.

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You have to babysit some of these people.

Chapter 3: What actions did Bobby Ledecker take to support her?

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Well, while that was going on, the one task force officer who hit Dawn, shoved her, he found out I was going to a New York Mets baseball game during this investigation. And him and a couple other task force officers made it a point to go to that baseball game, which was in Queens, and it was on law enforcement appreciation night.

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And he confronted me at the game, and we got into a big argument, cursing, and nose-to-nose. We were gonna fight, and it went on for a couple of seconds, and then it just stopped. I walked away and left, and I reported it to my chief, like, this is what happened. This is gonna be, you know, an off-duty incident. You know, I'm gonna get investigated. But...

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So strangely, there was law enforcement appreciation night. There was a bunch of members from the New York City task force office there who witnessed this. And one happened to be the chief of the whole task force. So the next day, he made it a point to remove that task force officer from the task force.

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But he was still able to work with them, but he couldn't be in the courthouse anymore, couldn't be in the office space. So, the results come out about the office culture investigation. Right. So now, my chief is livid. He's like, this is insane, you know. First of all, I wasn't even there when these things were happening, so how can I be a bad supervisor?

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And when I did hear about it, I reported it and got involved and confronted the supervisor. So my chief and the marshal then argue with the leadership from the marshal's headquarters. And he's, you know, they go through the whole list of complaints. They're like, you investigated all this and went through this stuff and found nothing, nothing at all.

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You're going to let this deputy marshal female tell you that somebody peed in her food. Right. And you're going to ignore it. Well, one of the people on that telephone call said he didn't know about that. And now that we bring that to his attention, he's going to instruct internal affairs to investigate that specific incident, just that one.

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Right.

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Not these other ones that she had listed. So, you wait a month or two, internal affairs comes into the office which they're terrible, they're absolutely horrible. They're the people that cannot get into the warrant squad, they're jealous, they're angry, you know, they're tools.

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Right.

Chapter 4: What was the culture of the U.S. Marshals office?

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Well, what's so strange is that before I get to do that and sit down with her, the day before, she oddly gets a phone call from a civilian who wants to report to her that I steal cell phones from people I arrest and I gave her one and that I'm a bad person.

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Okay.

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It's very confusing, right? So, this woman was the ex-girlfriend of one of the guys I worked with in the task force who was friends with these bad actors in the task force, rode a motorcycle with them. Well, somebody, one of those men gave her their name and phone number to the deciding official, which is all secret. This is all private.

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Which should tell you something's wrong, right? Right off the bat.

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And then that I stole a cell phone and gave it to her. So, you're in possession of stolen property.

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Right. Does she have a cell phone? Does she provide the cell phone?

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Well, this is even better. That deciding official tells us And my lawyer is like, you have to start in it. You have to report that to internal affairs. Right. So now I have a new internal affairs investigation on me while I'm getting proposed to be fired. Right. And, uh, Now we move forward towards our hearing, talk to her for a few hours, and the woman is just blown away. She can see it.

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She's like, this is pure retaliation. This is horrible.

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So are you allowed to present witnesses? Are you just...

Chapter 5: How did the investigation into the harassment unfold?

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But I was really lucky too because I'm a veteran and the VA here in Florida was great, you know, so I had medical protection there. My wife had medical protection from her company, they were helping. Then I started searching around a little bit more and I wound up finding a good job through LinkedIn which pushing my story out there.

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Right.

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I now currently work as a security consultant for a nonprofit organization, international. I do a lot of traveling. It's great. The organization supports the hell out of me for what I did and they can't believe it. But also, what happened during all this time is I connected with some great people on LinkedIn. LinkedIn was great for me. For me.

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I didn't do Facebook or any of the other social media. I met this one guy who's an FBI agent, lawyer, who got jammed up. They went after him and he's fighting them as well. He put me in touch with another FBI agent who resigned before they could fire him. And he waited a few years until he reached a certain age. And he went back and got a government job.

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So, I connected with that guy and he was telling me about it. And I'm like, I can't do that. He's like, you have over 20 years as federal law enforcement.

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Right.

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And he goes, you're over the age of 50 now. Because you have seven years in the Navy. I was terminated with 24 years and 10 months to go. If that's not personal retaliation, you can't. And everybody knew it. So this guy educated me and gave me the policies and the programs to follow. And I like saying I used the government against the government.

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Right.

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And I got my retirement.

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