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Wrongfully Arrested by Dirty Cops: Ronnie Bo’s Insane True Story

Tue, 11 Feb 2025

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Chapter 1: What was Ronnie Bo's wrongful arrest experience?

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I even was convicted, you know, for a crime that I didn't commit. And I took a plea. And there's reasons why, you know, it's a lot of innocent people who've been coerced into taking a plea for, you know, a mitigated sentence. There's probably, you might have been threatened with doing life in prison for something you didn't do. But if you take a plea, you might get five years or something. Right.

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This system is wicked and very corrupt. I was placed in shackles and cuffs. They cut off my clothes, stripped me naked and threw me inside of a cold prison cell with shackles and cuffs on and left me in there just like that with shackles and cuffs on, no clothes for over 24 hours. They wanted me to die. They probably thought that I was going to die because of that.

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They will use you up, chew you up, and spit you out. You know that. They don't give a fuck. And this is the thing about the BOP. Just about government in general. Like, if people think, oh, well, no, I want a big government. No, the government cares about you. Let me tell you something. When you give the government absolute power...

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they will treat you just like they treat those inmates because they have absolute power. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and there's no repercussions to how they can treat you. Hey, this is Matt Cox. I'm going to be interviewing Ronnie Bowe. He is a former drug dealer, wrongfully incarcerated, sued the police, I think, two or three different times.

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And he is currently a book author and rapper. Should be a super interesting interview. So check it out. Let's go back and start from the beginning, you know, like just like we were born. We're in Milwaukee.

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Yeah, north side of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, the 53206 area to be exact. And I mentioned the zip code because there was a movie that was released about three or four years ago about the 53206 area because according to the researchers in that movie, that was listed as the highest crime rate area in America at the time.

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okay um so that's you were raised you were born there raised there yeah born born there raised there uh outside of traveling and uh being a prison a bunch of times you know that's that's been my uh environment most of my life

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Did your parents have several kids? I mean, were they your brothers, sisters?

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Well, unfortunately, you know, my mother only had two boys, which my older brother and I, and he got killed in 2016. I'm a federal gunshot wound, so I'm the only child now. But, yeah, it was just me and him growing up until the day that he was killed.

Chapter 2: How does the criminal justice system treat the innocent?

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They gave me probation. And then while on probation. I caught a case for delivery of a controlled substance. I sold drugs to undercover cop and I actually didn't sell the drugs to him directly. A friend of mine lied to me and told me they knew this person. They was trying to make a couple of dollars off of the transaction.

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So I gave the drugs to a friend and he served the undercover cop and brought me the money back. And by the time he brought me the money back, the police just came from out of nowhere, caught me and arrested me. And that was around the time I went to jail during my freshman year. And I did a little bit of time for that.

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And that's when you got your high school diploma? Yeah. So, I mean, obviously, you get out. When did you get out?

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I got out about, yeah, I got out, to be exact, it was April of 2004.

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Okay. And so you went and you got a job at the bank and now that's, you know, you're still working there and everything's fine and you did the right thing and. Now you're a mortgage broker, and now? Yeah, I wish.

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I definitely had plans of doing such things, but unfortunately, the day after I was released, I started back selling drugs. You know, as a juvenile, it's like, You don't have the same conscience as, especially when you don't have kids. It's like, you know, you were locked up around a bunch of other kids who talked about doing the same things when they got out.

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So it wasn't like I did time and thought, well, look, it's time to change my life. You know, I need to do this and that. I was still in those young and dumb stages to where it's like, well, you know, I got off on this. I'm out now. I need some money. This is the only way I know of making money and I need some quick money. So this is what I'm going to go back to doing basically.

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That was my state of mind at the time.

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So how long did that go on until you got busted again or?

Chapter 3: What is Ronnie's background and upbringing?

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yeah uh you bond out huh were you able to bond out yeah eventually like even prior to the arrest like they wasn't just harassing me but they was harassing uh this lady who was my ex-girlfriend at the time and one time they arrested her and they told her that uh They found 90 grams of heroin in her purse and that they knew it was mine.

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I believe that they actually planted the drugs on her, but she actually... She she she didn't even do any time for that. You know, she later later on in the indictment, you know, that was threatening her with time. And then she later basically said that the drugs were mine and that I had been a little. Basically.

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But I've basically been using her to sell my drugs for me, basically, you know, just to sum it up. And a lot of her statements were obvious lies. You know, she contradicted herself a bunch of times in her statements, you know, just to try to get herself out of it. And, you know, by the grace of God, you know.

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My lawyer and I was able to point out all the contradictions in her statement, so they couldn't really use the things that she said against me. You know, when they indicted me, they actually separated the cases. I had... I had a case based here in Wisconsin, and then the actual Fed case was based in Chicago in the northern district of Illinois.

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And the case that could have really put me away for a long time was based in Wisconsin. That's where they were saying I was a member of this drug trafficking organization. That, you know, the informant, the guy who owned this magazine, was saying that I had a worker that I used to use to, you know, basically serve him drugs. So he was lying and saying that I was serving him drugs too.

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And there was one particular incident where he said that I served him 50 grams of heroin. And... He named a guy as my worker. The guy that he named even admitted that he never met me, that he doesn't know me, and that he was never working for me. I even had my lawyer hire a voice analyst specialist because they said they had a phone call to prove that I was serving this guy drugs.

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And the voice analyst specialist results came back that the phone calls were definitely not me. So I beat that case. That case could have put me away for about four years. They tried to get me to take a plea for 10 years. I wouldn't take the plea. I definitely knew that I wasn't guilty.

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The day of trial, they actually dismissed the case after basically it was confirmed that the person on these calls wasn't me and that the guy who they said was my worker admitted that he doesn't know me. You know, they dismissed the case at trial. So then I had to deal with the case based in Chicago where

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They said that this 90 grams of heroin was found in my girlfriend's purse, and then she later said it was mine. So my attorney was basically like, well, you got the big case out of the way, and you already sent a certain amount of time. And this, the guidelines, according to the guidelines, you're only facing about 40 months, 41 months for this.

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