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Not All Spirituality Is Serious | Medium At Large With Shannen Jai

22 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 16.251 David the Medium

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42.623 - 71.213 David the Medium

welcome to medium at large i'm david the medium and here you can expect some real raw and honest conversations around what spirituality actually means to show you that it's not supernatural it's actually just super natural each week i sit down with some familiar faces from all walks of life to show you how spirituality shows up for them no filters no fluff just raw human stories around belief doubt and everything in between and yes every now and then spirit might show up as well so whether you're deeply spiritual deeply skeptical or somewhere in between you're in the right place

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77.74 - 86.753 David the Medium

Hey guys, welcome back to Medium at Large. Today I'm joined by fashion blogger, entrepreneur, podcast host, and yummy mummy. I'm a mummy.

86.773 - 90.037 Shannen Jai Peroomal

Welcome to Medium at Large, Shannon J. Thank you for having me.

90.418 - 93.522 David the Medium

You should actually be on the next season of Yummy Mummies. I need to bring it back.

93.722 - 96.186 Shannen Jai Peroomal

Oh my God, I actually frothed that. I frothed that.

96.206 - 97.427 David the Medium

Wasn't it good? I loved it.

Chapter 2: How does Shannen Jai balance her career and motherhood?

189.454 - 189.915 Shannen Jai Peroomal

Can I say that?

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190.476 - 209.299 David the Medium

What happened? Well, like, I mean, I'm talking on their behalf. And with relationships, like, it's not my place to speak on them. But I just – with Tess and her partner, I just said, you know, just – There's just a lot of things that spirit was bringing up that maybe hit home for them. And it was a bit of a reflection. And then they decided to part ways.

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209.719 - 224.455 David the Medium

But like, you know, obviously with any relationship in life, there's a lot more to it and like journeys and people are always in your life, Shannon, for a season, a reason or a lifetime anyway. And I'm sure that they, you know, they taught each other a lot and there was, you know, mutual love and affection throughout their relationship. And that's all that matters.

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224.435 - 244.063 Shannen Jai Peroomal

Okay. Okay. So now I'm here. So thank you if that was your influence or the spirits or whoever that was. But Tess was just like, the producers were like, hey, get someone. We need someone on. Who do you want to be your co-host? Can you think of anyone? And apparently she thought of me. And I...

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244.043 - 268.853 Shannen Jai Peroomal

didn't even question it mind you i don't even i didn't even speak on my story prior to having a podcast like i i hated the sound of my own voice which is so funny because even get you know getting to now meet you properly face to face like you were such a natural presenter energy i think i'm used to it i think i've come out of my shell a lot okay good um but i just i i immediately said yes to test i was like yep i'll do it and we came in for the the test what would you call that like a

268.833 - 269.815 David the Medium

Like a pilot vibe.

269.835 - 277.547 Shannen Jai Peroomal

A pilot, right? And we all loved it. And they were like, immediately, yes. And it just, it honestly has been the best thing I've ever done.

277.728 - 279.19 David the Medium

Right. And how long has that been going for now?

279.33 - 288.345 Shannen Jai Peroomal

Well, we're on season two. We just got sponsored by NYX for season two. Congratulations. You're on like season 450. What are you on?

Chapter 3: What challenges did Shannen face while building her podcast?

379.494 - 390.993 Shannen Jai Peroomal

Because they were like, oh, shit. Because I always do the same thing every episode. Yeah, I did that for a really long time. I moved abroad in like 2020. UK? No, 2015. UK?

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391.193 - 391.534 David the Medium

Yeah.

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392.172 - 409.396 Shannen Jai Peroomal

It was Austria, then Greece, then Belgium, and then Scotland. Oh, Scotland. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was the end. And yeah, my ex-husband was a football player, so he played and I just- Like AFL? Soccer. Soccer?

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409.976 - 410.777 David the Medium

Mm-hmm. The real football.

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410.797 - 429.486 Shannen Jai Peroomal

Yes, exactly. Yeah. Um, so yeah, I just, I was a content creator. I was a fashion blogger. I did that, you know, for a good nine, 10 years. Um, and then moved back to Australia and I was just like, it's not fulfilling anymore. I need to do something more. So, um, I'm, yeah, I'm sort of still doing it here and there on the side, but.

429.466 - 439.124 David the Medium

And, you know, even, you know, when you mentioned your former partner and, you know, obviously he's got a big career and he's got the public image, like, you know, and I hate using the term like wags.

439.144 - 445.436 Shannen Jai Peroomal

Oh, yeah. I mean, I don't care. I don't think it's derogatory in any way. No, but it's like you're more than just the wife or the girlfriend at the same time.

445.456 - 456.339 David the Medium

Yeah, yeah. How do you reconcile having your own life and all that and your opportunities when your partner's so public and you're sort of following him around?

456.359 - 475.218 Shannen Jai Peroomal

Yeah. So when we first met, I knew him my whole life. We lived around the corner from each other. And when we first met, we were quite young. I was 17 and he was two years older. And I was still studying, I was still working in retail, and then he got the opportunity to move, not abroad yet, it was interstate to Adelaide.

Chapter 4: How does spirituality show up in Shannen's life?

573.267 - 579.196 Shannen Jai Peroomal

I need to be around my support system. We had nobody over there. It was him, I, and our daughter and that's it.

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579.476 - 580.698 David the Medium

It's a lonely life on the road.

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580.878 - 601.925 Shannen Jai Peroomal

It was hard, yeah. And it didn't hit me until then because I was so fine with it. I was a hermit. I was a recluse for so long and was fine because I would have my Instagram family and I would post for these people every single day and I was fine with it. But then I got over it and I was like, I need more. So, yeah, we moved back in 2024 and, yeah.

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602.206 - 622.691 David the Medium

So, you know, even touching on the relationship because, you know, we're both same-sex attracted. Like. Yay, pride. And, you know, I know you mentioned you got with him or, you know, you obviously had a friendship and you were neighbors and everything like that. And then there's a relationship from 17 years onwards. It's a very bit of a personal question.

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622.711 - 641.588 David the Medium

But like, even when you were in your teens, was women like, was there ever sort of that attraction to women? But obviously, because what I, the only reason I ask is because, you know, I find even with a lot of my friends now, it's sort of like, you know, they either got married to men or they got married to women. And then they were like, afterwards they were like, oh, but I always like,

641.568 - 649.571 David the Medium

Because we kind of feel like life has to be a certain way, and especially when we were growing up. Obviously, I've got a bit of age on you, but it was very conservative back then.

649.791 - 660.086 Shannen Jai Peroomal

Preach. Not that my family's conservative. I just feel like I chose... to go that direction. Cause I was like, I don't want to disappoint anyone. Like I don't want to, I don't want to.

660.126 - 661.709 David the Medium

So there was sort of like same sex attraction.

661.769 - 668.321 Shannen Jai Peroomal

Oh yeah. So I was actually hooking up with a girl before I was hooking up with him when I was like 16. Yeah.

Chapter 5: What insights does Shannen share about her past relationships?

781.06 - 782.785 Shannen Jai Peroomal

Not that I can think of. Okay.

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782.805 - 785.953 David the Medium

Like not talking about past lives or seeing people at the end of the bed or anything like that?

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785.933 - 800.88 Shannen Jai Peroomal

No, not that I can think of. I've heard stories of other kids doing it around that age. My friend's kids have. Yeah, I've heard some stories. But no, not from her. Yeah. Not from her. But it is incredible that they can do that. It scares me. I'm not going to lie. But it's incredible.

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800.92 - 807.492 David the Medium

Yeah. And what about you? So I know you mentioned this is your first podcast. And you've come on to a very unique podcast.

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807.512 - 810.557 Shannen Jai Peroomal

I know. I said yes immediately. Because it's also my first reading.

810.537 - 818.248 David the Medium

Well, that was my next question. So you've never, like, what's your experience with like the spiritual side or like you've never done tarot or anything like that?

818.388 - 825.037 Shannen Jai Peroomal

Oh, I do tarot, yeah. And I've had some readings from psychics. Like predictions, yeah. How about I?

827.16 - 827.921 David the Medium

You did one over the phone.

828.622 - 833.929 Shannen Jai Peroomal

No. No, I did one at the market, the night market.

Chapter 6: How does Shannen view her creative journey and public speaking?

858.163 - 863.036 David the Medium

See, this is why. Because Spirit goes like this. So I think they liked the phone reading for you as well. She was psychic.

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863.517 - 867.247 Shannen Jai Peroomal

Okay. Yeah. Well, I did. I did that. I sat in the car and I did it and I wrote everything down.

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867.307 - 871.257 David the Medium

Well, she got dates and stuff, which is good. Or like timelines.

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871.237 - 889.28 Shannen Jai Peroomal

She did. She had timelines and she spoke a lot about like divorce and not father figures, like man figures and like masculine figures and stuff and money and this and that. And as I was going through my divorce and all that sort of, and I was like, this is all spot on. And I don't know this girl from Borough Slope. She didn't know my name, nothing. So I was really, yeah.

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890.241 - 897.21 Shannen Jai Peroomal

I was happy with that one. But the night market one, yeah. What do you expect from a night market, really? Yeah.

897.19 - 908.023 David the Medium

I mean, apparently, and this is, I don't know her at all, but like shout out to her if anyone who's been to her or even if she ends up listening, but there is a tarot reader at the South Melbourne market.

908.044 - 908.564 Shannen Jai Peroomal

Okay.

908.584 - 910.086 David the Medium

And apparently she's under the staircase.

910.246 - 910.767 Shannen Jai Peroomal

Okay.

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