The Contrarian Case for London Real Estate After a Decade of Stagnation
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What are the current trends in the UK housing market?
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Welcome to Merrin Talks Your Money, the personal finance edition of Merrin Talks Money. In these bonus podcasts, we talk about the best strategies for making the most of your money. I'm Merrin Somerset-Webb, and with me today, of course, as usual, I have senior reporter and Money Distilled author, John Stepak. Hello, John. Hi, Merrin. And I also have with us today another guest, Daniel Austin, who's CEO and co-founder of ASK Partners. And he is an expert on London property and in particular, London prime property. Daniel, thanks for joining us today.
Thank you.
Right now, Dan, I'm going to come back to you in a minute, but I want to talk to John a little bit about the general miseries of the UK housing market before we move on to what may or may not be happening in London specifically. Now, John, you and I have been talking about property prices in the UK for so long, and we've always been a little more down on property as an investment as most people. So today, looking around at all the headlines that you see at the moment coming out on UK property, look, here's a quick, quick rundown, quick rundown of headlines I've just pulled up over the last 10 hours, right? We're trapped. Despair for sellers as Iran war knocks confidence in UK housing. Housing slump threatens to trigger turmoil.
UK house prices collapse. Housing markets slump UK as prices fall and rates jump. Blah, blah, blah. On we go. On we go. So I thought, let's go back and have a look at how people have done in the housing market over the last 10 years and the last 20 years. Now, obviously, this isn't as straightforward as you might think. You can't do a direct comparison between housing markets and equity markets, for example, because no one leverages themselves up by many hundreds of percent to buy into the equity market. Maybe they should, but that's another conversation. So, right, over the last 10 years, Bank of England calculator, inflation has been 39%. Yep. Guess for me, John. In fact, Daniel, you can guess this one too.
This is a fun one. You may know the answer. Guess how much house prices in Greater London have gone up over the last 10 years, on average, at the same time as UK inflation has been just off 40%.
40% in total.
40% in total for UK inflation over that 10-year period.
I'd say the stats you've got are probably something in the teens, but in real terms, I'd argue it's close to zero.
Well, it's 18.3%. So in real terms, we're negative, significantly negative. And then outer southeast has been better over the last 10 years, 31%, but still below inflation. So we are still negative in real terms. Northeast, Midlands, et cetera, we're looking at 24%, 25%. Still negative in real terms. Doesn't matter where you look. UK property prices have fallen in inflation adjusted terms over the last 10 years, which to a lot of people, I think, will be a very shocking number. So, OK, that's fine. Let's go back 20 years. So let's go back 20.
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
What are the current trends in the UK housing market?
0:00–6:23
2
How have London property prices changed over the last decade?
6:23–17:33
3
What factors are contributing to the stagnation of the UK housing market?
17:33–26:40
4
What are the implications of rising interest rates on property investments?
26:40–27:11
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