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My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark

Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 19: Nineteen Kills and Counting

13 Nov 2024

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Chapter 1: What is the purpose of the Rewind podcast?

1006.481 - 1032.77 Karen Kilgariff

Exactly. When that run is done, you immediately, you have to do such a good job that people recommend you for your next run. And this is, now we're talking 2016 era. The rooms are so much smaller now. There's so many fewer writing jobs now. It's rough. I mean, it's crazy. But then also the idea that my pan in the fire of a podcast with my friend Georgia that I'd met six months prior. It's wild.

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1032.79 - 1041.017 Karen Kilgariff

Yeah. All right. So Georgia goes first on this episode. So here is her story about the so-called freeway phantom.

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Imagine you're scrolling through TikTok. You come across a video of a teenage girl and then a photo of the person suspected of killing her. It was shocking. It was very shocking. Like, that could have been my daughter. Like, you never know. I'm Jen Swan. I'm the host of a new podcast called My Friend Daisy.

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It's the story of how and why a group of teenagers turn to social media to help track down their friend's killer. Listen to My Friend Daisy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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1076.903 - 1081.466 Clayton English

I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glott. And this is Season 2 of the War on Drugs Podcast.

1081.726 - 1087.89 Greg Glott

Last year, a lot of the problems of the drug war. This year, a lot of the biggest names in music and sports.

1088.17 - 1090.251 Unknown

It's kind of star-studded a little bit, man.

1090.391 - 1098.756 Greg Glott

We met them at their homes. We met them at their recording studios. Stories matter, and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real.

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Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs Podcast Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Chapter 2: What episode are they discussing today?

1204.069 - 1204.93 Georgia Hardstark

They are all black women.

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1204.97 - 1206.891 Karen Kilgariff

Yeah, that's fucking... Yeah.

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1207.131 - 1237.317 Georgia Hardstark

And it's tragic. I'll get into it. All right, here we go. So... The Freeway Phantom was the name given to an unidentified serial killer known to have abducted, raped, and strangled six female youths in the Washington, D.C. area from April 1971 through September 1972. That's not even a fucking year. No. Which immediately makes you think he got arrested right afterwards or moved on.

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1237.897 - 1239.037 Karen Kilgariff

Oh, because they don't know who it is?

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1239.537 - 1241.158 Georgia Hardstark

Oh, yeah. Unidentified still.

1241.378 - 1241.858 Karen Kilgariff

Oh, sorry.

1242.198 - 1271.251 Georgia Hardstark

No, it's fine. It's fine. I have some suspects. The victims were all African-American girls between the ages of 10 and 18. No. No. Sweet baby angels. Okay, so the first one was in April 1971. 13-year-old Carol Spinks was sent by her sister to go to a 7-Eleven located half a mile away from her home, which is like what you do back then. You go walk. And 13, that's like old enough.

1271.371 - 1278.956 Karen Kilgariff

Oh, so old. We used to walk to the store, the corner store, which is like easily a half a mile away, every single day from when I was like six years old.

1279.016 - 1301.511 Georgia Hardstark

Yeah, we used to jaywalk on one of the busiest streets, like encouraged to jaywalk. To the store across the street. Just cut across the street. Just run fast. Yeah. You fucking idiot. On her way home from the store, Carol was abducted and her body was found six days later on a grassy embankment next to the northbound lanes of the I-295.

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