What’s Andy Burnham’s Plan To Move Power Out Of London?
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Hello, as discussed on our last episode of Newscast, Andy Burnham is definitely, maybe, almost certainly, very close, almost into Downing Street as Prime Minister. So we thought in this episode, we would do a deep dive in podcasting parlance into his big idea. Really, really radical devolution, spreading power out from Whitehall, Westminster and London to all parts of the UK, especially England. Newscast.
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Hello, it's Adam in the Newscast studio. And it's Alex in the Westminster studio. Now, Alex, this episode of Newscast is actually your brainchild. Yeah. Oh, I'm glad you knew that. That's good.
I did know that, yeah. I was chatting in the office to some of the Newscast team last week and I was like, ooh, do you know what I'm really interested in? And they were like, what? And I was like, devolution. So here we go. We're going to talk about it a lot.
We're going to make everyone interested in it. Yeah. And do you know what? Let's have a bit of stimulus. And the reason everyone's talking about devolution is because it's Andy Burnham's big idea. And by big, I mean it's like his central guiding philosophy, we think, for his premiership, which is inching ever closer. And here is his kind of elevator pitch for what he's on about.
I am going to do things differently. I am going to break with the more of the same approach that has got us here. I am going to give Britain the circuit breaker it needs. By building a more collaborative politics in Westminster. By taking power out of the centre and putting it in the hands of the people and places who can use it best. And in so doing, creating a new sense of agency, possibility and hope flowing around the country. We will make politics work for you and the place where you live.
And joining us to help us unpack it all is Ant Breach, who's Director of Policy and Research at the Centre for Cities. Hello, Ant. Hello. What does the Centre for Cities do?
We are a think tank that looks at cities and particularly their role in the national economy, why they differ, and trying to come up with ideas on how to make them better and how to make the national economy more prosperous as well.
What is Andy Burnham’s core pitch for moving power out of Westminster?
This is about to become your season. Yes, yes. And Alex, we should be clear that normally when we talk about devolution, or the majority of the times that we talk about devolution in the UK sense, we're talking about the devolved institutions in Scotland and Wales and Northern Ireland. This is not going to be a podcast about that, although maybe it will feature because Andy Burnham has brought up that too. This is about devolution within England.
Yeah, exactly right, because that is a slightly different thing. And you're right, there is going to be a part of the conversation when Andy Burnham becomes prime minister about what that does mean for Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. But I think the thrust of what he's talking about as one of his really key kind of economic platforms is the idea of handing more power from Whitehall and Westminster to the regions of England.
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