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Bondi Names The Names… At What Cost? - Scrolling w/ Hayley (Ep. 238)

18 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the implications of Pam Bondi releasing the Epstein list?

0.993 - 24.871 Hayley Caronia

Welcome to Scrolling with Haley. I am Haley Karinia. Thank you for joining the show. It is a, what? It is a Wednesday. Is it Wednesday? Well, I know that. I forgot. Sometimes I forget what day it is. I'm not seeing my thing, by the way. I don't know why. Please hold. But thank you for joining the show.

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25.232 - 40.972 Hayley Caronia

Just a quick reminder that, of course, you can catch this show live right now on Rumble, rumble.com slash Hayley. And that will bring you to the Bongina Report channel, where you should already be subscribed. But we've got to get those numbers up. That's where you can watch my show and Vince's show at 8 AM Eastern time.

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41.513 - 61.866 Hayley Caronia

And of course, if you can't catch us live at noon, I understand that people are busy, people are working. You can watch whenever you want. Watch later on video on demand or catch it on your favorite podcast platform, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeart, wherever you get your shows. The podcast version of this show will be available right after this show ends. So what do we have on the show today?

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62.026 - 86.206 Hayley Caronia

Well. Do you remember Pam Bondi's Bindergate? I do. I was appalled by that. And remember when she said she had the client list on her desk and then she said, wait, no, actually, the case is closed. Wait, don't ask about it again. Actually, you know, OK, all that back and forth. Well, that promise to deliver a list is coming back to haunt Pam Bondi. We're gonna get into that.

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Also, Chelsea Clinton says she left the church because she didn't agree with their stance on abortion when she was just six years old. Are you buying it? Because I sure am not. And there's been another transgender shooter inside his violent social media posts that may have been a warning. Put your phones on Do Not Disturb. Scrolling with Hailey starts right now.

119.135 - 145.563 Hayley Caronia

So last week, Attorney General Pam Bondi released a list of 300 plus names of high profile people, politicians who were named in the Epstein files. Now, I can't totally place all of the blame on Pam Bondi here because this was required of her as laid out in the Epstein Files Transparency Act that was passed by Congress and pushed by Ro Khanna and Thomas Massey. This is what they required.

145.904 - 163.752 Hayley Caronia

They wanted the list of names. Now, none of this shitstorm, though, would have started if it wasn't for Pam Bondi. So if it wasn't for the lies on national television and then all of the back and forth and then Trump being asked about it and wanting to move on, none of this would have happened. People wouldn't have thought that there was a there there.

163.832 - 179.185 Hayley Caronia

People thought that there was because they thought that Trump was being sketchy about it, when in reality, he was probably like, we need to move on from this because it's getting ridiculous now. And with all the back and forth, the more people were talking about it, the bigger the hole they were digging was getting, right?

179.846 - 203.684 Hayley Caronia

So back in August, I actually warned against just releasing names or in the name of transparency, because that's dangerous. At the time, this was back in August, Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche was interviewing Glenn Maxwell. Remember when they said case closed, there's nothing to see here anymore. Then they said, actually, never mind, because there's public backlash.

Chapter 2: How does Chelsea Clinton's statement about leaving the church raise questions?

317.133 - 331.219 Hayley Caronia

And there are people on this list that I don't know if they're guilty of anything, or maybe they were just emailing back and forth or what have you. So, you know, Bill Clinton's on this list. Hillary Clinton's on this list.

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George Clooney, Alan Dershowitz, Kurt Cobain, Robert De Niro, David Copperfield, Tucker Carlson, Ben Shapiro, Marjorie Taylor Greene, James Comey, even Pam Bondi and Dan Bongino. Because in this list of people, They have FBI documents that are in this. So again, this list is ridiculous. Just because you are named doesn't mean shit.

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355.593 - 378.8 Hayley Caronia

There are people literally CC'd on emails and other government documents in this list that are released. So I wanted to show you guys, just for an example, Ben Shapiro was listed on this thing. So as you know, I've been going through the Epstein files little by little, because I don't have all freaking day, and there are 3 million pages.

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Chapter 3: What details emerged about the recent transgender shooter incident?

378.9 - 401.748 Hayley Caronia

So I'm just doing this drip by drip. And I saw the Ben Shapiro thing, and I thought, OK, let me just, you can go to the DOJ website. They released everything. You go and search it in. And I'm thinking, OK, Ben Shapiro. I search in Ben Shapiro. He is CC'd on an email from this guy, Steve Bayer, to Alan Dershowitz. So Jay Sekulow's on this email, CC'd.

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402.028 - 431.312 Hayley Caronia

Mike Pompeo, Mike Huckabee, Sarah Huckabee, General Michael Flynn, all these people. Senator Mitch McConnell, Thomas Massey. We're just trying to think here. But again, I just Googled, or Googled, I just searched in the Epstein files, Ben Shapiro, because I heard Ben Shapiro's in the list. Oh, why, right? He's just CC'd on an email. That's it. No, nothing nefarious. He was just CC'd on an email.

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431.592 - 451.461 Hayley Caronia

This is why you can't do this. You can't just... We're releasing names and no one did anything wrong. Same thing with Marjorie Taylor Greene. Her name is in this a few different times. So I search Marjorie Taylor Greene. There's just news articles about her, news articles about the fact that she wanted transparency, news articles about this.

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452.082 - 474.148 Hayley Caronia

This one, her name is literally in an FBI daily news briefing. So this is just what's in the news. And Marjorie Taylor Greene's name comes up. Again, On this document, A.G. Garland, Rand Paul. Like, there are so many names that are just being swept up in this now for no reason.

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Now, of course, and the Democrats will remind you of this at any chance that they get, that President Trump is in the list, right?

Chapter 4: What does the Epstein Files Transparency Act mean for public figures?

481.755 - 506.984 Hayley Caronia

So, of course, I searched Trump not enough time in the day to get through all of the times that he is mentioned. But, you know, there are complaints in there about President Trump. There are emails about accusations like E. Jean Carroll's. But again, this is just as an example, one of the times that Donald Trump was named in the Epstein files, quote unquote, and it's a breaking news alert.

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507.024 - 532.729 Hayley Caronia

It's a New York Times article about Donald Trump. So again, just because you are named doesn't mean anything. Trump and Melania Trump also named in the Epstein files. They were talking about how in this next email, they couldn't believe that Trump won. They thought that Hillary Clinton was gonna won and someone and both of these names in this email are redacted.

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532.749 - 553.281 Hayley Caronia

So I don't know who got the email and who sent it, but people just... in disbelief that President Trump won the election and beat Hillary Clinton back in 2016, and, oh, I went to visit you in Florida, and that's the weekend that Donald met Melania. Anyway, hope you're enjoying, and President Trump thought Melania was a hot piece of ass. Well, she is.

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553.261 - 577.245 Hayley Caronia

But again, this is like the nefarious stuff happening when people are, again, all ridiculous. Melania's name is in the Epstein files. I searched Melania in this document dump. People are talking about how gorgeous she is. You're darn tootin', yeah, she's gorgeous. Like, hello? And then this one. This is like a little, I don't know, I'm trying to find things that are nefarious, right?

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577.365 - 603.764 Hayley Caronia

Because, I don't know, that's what the left is saying is in this thing. Here's an email from Jeffrey Epstein to Michael Wolff. Achilles heel, Melania transcript. Melania also focused on dates of porn star before and after the birth of Baron. Now they have two army people escorting her kids to school. Okay, this is, again, nobody guilty of anything. No wrongdoing. Again, I see another email.

604.024 - 622.334 Hayley Caronia

Someone, again, they're talking a lot of, in this email, a lot of the times Melania's mentioned, she's gorgeous. They're talking about how gorgeous she is. This one, I can't get behind, though. They were saying that Melania looks like Glenn Maxwell. some woman, Laura Woods, Glenn looks very much like Melania Trump, respectfully submitted. Well, I respectfully disagree.

622.375 - 646.92 Hayley Caronia

I do not think that Glenn Maxwell and her weird little haircut and all of the disgustingness, when you're that disgusting on the inside, it comes out on the outside. And Glenn Maxwell and Melania Trump are in different stratospheres. But even Elvis Presley's name comes up in the Epstein files. This is just to go to show you how ridiculous this has gotten. Elvis Presley.

647.06 - 671.732 Hayley Caronia

So I'm looking this up because I hear his name's in it. And someone just sent a link to Jeffrey Epstein of the song You're the Devil in Disguise, Elvis Presley, saying, you know, we're watching you, Epstein, whatever. So someone sent that song to him. That's it. No wrongdoing from Elvis Presley that we know of. This is ridiculous.

672.593 - 699.047 Hayley Caronia

People's names that are named in articles, in links, why release that? This is not what people were talking about when they wanted a, quote, client list released, which I believe that they don't have. Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell, again, were jailed for sex trafficking minors. What the American people want to know, who did they traffic those minors to? That's the list that people want.

Chapter 5: Why is the release of names from the Epstein files controversial?

865.151 - 886.157 Hayley Caronia

That doesn't mean that, right? Now, despite demanding the release of the files for the last few weeks on The View and slamming Trump's presence in the files, here she is on full panic mode. Now everyone at the table, now all the hags at the table are now defending everyone who's named in this list, saying it doesn't really matter that she's in it. Watch.

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Now, in the name of transparency, can you put up My name is in the files. Yes. And what does it say? It says, Whoopi needs a plane to get to Monaco. John Lennon's charity, it should say Julian Lennon's charity, is paying for it. They don't want to charter, so they're looking for private owners. Here's the info. And they give all the information. And they're saying, do you want to offer your G2?

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And it looks like they said no thanks. So in other words, anybody can be on this list. Well, this is my point, because I'm telling you, when I tell you people are trying to turn me into... I wasn't his girlfriend. I wasn't his friend. You were too old for him. I was not only too old, but it was at a time, you know, where this is just not... You used to have to have facts before you said stuff.

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But Trump is on the list 38,000 times. Well, I can't speak to him, but I'm speaking about me because I'm getting dragged. People actually believe that I was with him.

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955.786 - 977.552 Hayley Caronia

It's like, honey, come on. I love how they're still on the Trump thing. Joy Behar being like, Whoopi Goldberg's name in this list means nothing. She was named in the files, but she just wanted a plane. Donald Trump being named even more than that. What is Joy Behar insinuating? That the more times you're mentioned in the files means that you're more guilty? Again,

977.532 - 997.231 Hayley Caronia

No, Trump is not guilty of any wrongdoing based on this list or based on this file dump the same way that Whoopi Goldberg is. I just think it's hilarious that all the ladies on The View, they're saying, you know, Whoopi Goldberg, you're fine, which she is. She's fine. She didn't commit any crimes that we know of. We have no evidence of that. Same as Trump. But it's just hilarious.

997.251 - 1013.817 Hayley Caronia

But even CNN knows not to blame President Trump anymore. Eric Swalwell tried to insinuate wrongdoing based on Trump being named in the files however many times, but even this CNN anchor admitted, well, Trump isn't guilty of any wrongdoing. Listen.

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The name that is listed the most in these files and talked about the most is Donald Trump. And of all the people that Jeffrey Epstein talked to in the world, and it looks like this guy got around and there are millions of files and Donald Trump's name is mentioned many, many times, up to a million. Some are speculating through the searches.

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There's only one person that Jeffrey Epstein described as his best friend. and that's Donald Trump. But the effort since this summer, and I want to just walk you through the timeline, has been to avoid this at all costs on the Republican side. It's a cover-up job at the Department of Justice, but we're not going away.

Chapter 6: What evidence connects Bill Clinton to Jeffrey Epstein?

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We'll get to that later. I mean, Donald Trump has never been charged with any crimes in relation to Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah, but let's be adults here. We'll talk about that. Let's be serious. Satisfied?

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1153.437 - 1175.121 Hayley Caronia

Let's be adults here and keep pushing lies on CNN. That's what he's saying. And, you know, John Berman there, very defensive because Scott Jennings caught him with his pants down being lazy and not fact checking that statement in real time. And Scott had to remind him to do his job live on air. And he got very embarrassed saying, oh, well, we'll get to the Epstein.

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1175.161 - 1201.973 Hayley Caronia

But we'll get we'll fact check that later. Now, I don't know why, but after that, exchange a month ago. Cameron Caskey was likely advised by someone, maybe it was his own agent, maybe it was someone in his inner circle who had his best interests, or someone at CNN, to issue a retraction, and he did so, it was half-assed, but he posted it, saying this.

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1202.543 - 1224.902 Hayley Caronia

I would like to retract my comments from CNN last night and truly apologize. Donald Trump was obviously not involved with a giant international child sex trafficking ring where women and children were systemically raped by elites. I said that by accident and didn't mean it. So you can tell he's being kind of coy there and he's being like a little shithead, but he doesn't believe this post.

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1224.962 - 1249.965 Hayley Caronia

He actually believes wholeheartedly what he said on the air, but he knows that it wasn't true. Or maybe someone in his circle Or CNN told him, hey, you better make this right because you just lied. And so whether that came from someone on high at CNN or not, CNN has certainly learned their lesson not to lie about President Trump because nowadays he will fight back.

1249.945 - 1274.936 Hayley Caronia

President Trump has been undefeated lately when it comes to these defamation lawsuits, and certainly he is on a roll. So CNN knows to be careful because if they are caught lying about Trump or they let lies fly on the air and don't do anything about them, especially tying President Trump to sordid child sex crimes, they will have to cough up $15 million dollars. like ABC and CBS had to do.

1275.499 - 1298.731 Hayley Caronia

And at this rate, every toilet in the presidential library is going to be gold. He's building this presidential library in Miami. It's going to be, if he keeps racking up these defamation lawsuits, if he gets CNN on this, if he gets Trevor Noah at the Grammys and all that, I mean, every damn toilet is going to be gold. So I say, go for gold, President Trump.

1298.851 - 1314.711 Hayley Caronia

I am glad that he set an example with ABC, now CBS, and now everyone in the media is scared straight into doing their jobs. It shouldn't take a lawsuit to do that, or even threats of lawsuits to do that, but... That's what gets the mainstream media to do their jobs, or at least a little bit.

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And while CNN is trying to clean up statements on their network, Hillary Clinton hasn't quite figured out how to lie or not lie about her ties to Epstein. Listen to this.

Chapter 7: How does the media's coverage of transgender shooters differ?

1448.287 - 1474.573 Hayley Caronia

If my husband was hanging around with Glenn Maxwell, I would also be suspicious about that relationship. But then there are emails in this document dump about setting up flights for Bill Clinton. Again, is there any hard evidence that Bill Clinton was on the island or guilty of wrongdoing? No, there isn't. So to argue that there's no link, though, is a blatant lie.

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1475.255 - 1500.306 Hayley Caronia

And Jeffrey Epstein had a painting of a certain someone, a certain former president in Monica Lewinsky's blue dress in his house. And I will give you a hint. It was not President Trump wearing that dress in that painting in Jeffrey Epstein's house. It was Bill Clinton. And I think you need to be more than linked to have a photo like that of someone in your house. It's just me.

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1500.893 - 1535.425 Hayley Caronia

But here's another statement from the Clinton family that is a load of baloney. So Chelsea Clinton, this was I think last week, she came out in an interview and said that she left the church when she was six years old. This is what she said. I find it quite insulting sometimes when people say to my mom, my dad, or me that they question our faith. She went on, That's a true story.

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My mother is a deeply, is very deeply a person of faith. It is deeply authentic and real for my mother.

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Chapter 8: What are the consequences of misinformation in media reporting?

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and it guides so much of her moral compass, but also her life's work. I recognize that there were many expressions of faith that I don't agree with and feel are quite antithetical to how I read the Bible. That's interesting. I thought that that quote specifically was interesting. I will take things that never happened for 400 Alex.

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1566.663 - 1593.774 Hayley Caronia

There is no way that Chelsea Clinton left the church at six years old before her parents did because of abortion. Why would she even know what that is if not for her family maybe talking about killing babies at the kitchen table? She said she finds it insulting that people question the Clinton's faith and then provides exhibit A as to why practicing Christians would be questioning your faith.

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1594.475 - 1624.286 Hayley Caronia

It's hard to argue a pro-choice or pro-abortion stance and also have practicing Christians take you seriously. Standing for and protecting unborn life, again, one of the easiest stances to take They can't seem to do it, the Clintons. She says opposing abortion is not how she reads the Bible. Well, tell me, Chelsea, where in the Bible does it encourage sexual promiscuity and abortion on demand?

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1625.107 - 1645.817 Hayley Caronia

It doesn't. And if you're more disgusted at six years old with the church opposing abortion than you are disgusted by abortion itself, you are the problem and have... no understanding of your faith. So it doesn't surprise me that they left the church. I just don't think that Chelsea Clinton was the one that prompted it. Could you imagine a six-year-old girl?

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1646.498 - 1656.815 Hayley Caronia

Hey, mom and dad, they were talking to me about abortion today, so I don't want to go back. Really? You think that that's what prompted the Clintons to leave the church? I don't buy it.

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Well, I've always respected Hillary Clinton for her strong moral compass.

1661.071 - 1684.675 Hayley Caronia

Me too. Absolutely. If we could all be more like Hillary Clinton and the Clinton family, the world would be a better place. Sarcasm. All right, so the left has been doing this thing where they are making martyrs out of illegal immigrants. And it started first and foremost with Kilmar Abrego Garcia a few months back over the summer.

1684.795 - 1702.183 Hayley Caronia

All the Democrats were getting on flights very quickly to go get margaritas with him, like Senator Van Hollen did. And they were making pilgrimages to Seacott to see all these people that shouldn't have been here anyway, right? Now their latest thing is making a huge spectacle.

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