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Will The Knicks Sweep The Spurs?

08 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the highlights from Game 2 of the NBA Finals?

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2016 was sort of that last era of monoculture where we still consumed things in community. Everybody wanted to be Beyonce at that point. I don't think we'll ever see another Beyonce. What does it mean to be Black and eat in America? You will never make me feel bad for being a Black girl, for being a Black American girl ever.

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Hey, it's Alec Baldwin. This season on my podcast, Here's the Thing, I talk to composer Mark Shaman. It's about the hang. It's the pleasure of hanging out with the people that you're with. You know, Rob and I was always a great hang.

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And director Morgan Neville. Film school teaches you all the wrong things about making documentary. What do you want to say? Documentary is all about your ear. What do you hear? I feel like my job is listening really, really hard.

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Chapter 2: What adjustments can the Spurs make for Game 3?

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And over yonder, right over there, making the magic happen, super producer JD. Hello. There he is. Here we are. Hello to everybody on YouTube. Hello, podcast listeners. On today's pod, we're going to get you all set for tonight's game three of the NBA finals in Madison Square Garden. And later...

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We'll hit the beach to answer a few of your random questions that you sent in, some of them finals related. But first, sadly, we suffered another heartbreaking loss in the NBA yesterday. Stacey King, the longtime Chicago Bulls broadcaster and three-time NBA champion as a player with the franchise, died. He was just 59 years old.

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No cause of death was given, but the Bulls announced this in statements, and the Reinsdorf family both sharing their thoughts. Just... Out of nowhere news, Trey, you shared this in the Slack, and it was a real, what the fuck? What are you talking about? So, Stacey King-Gong, obviously sending our condolences to his family, his friends, and the Bulls organization. Yeah, big time bummer.

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Like you're saying, Skeets, there was no sort of prelude to Stacey King passing away. Just happened out of nowhere. Still don't exactly know what happened, but the dude was a Bulls legend. He played on three championship teams, the first part of the dynasty, but definitely known more

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As a broadcaster, almost 20 years there on the broadcast, the definition of like a local color commentating legend to the point where you listen to a Bulls game, there will be games when Stacey King isn't on, you know, somebody else subbing in for him, and you're still hearing his catchphrases. Somebody hits a three, you're like, oh. Somebody needs the hot sauce here. Right, that kind of stuff.

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There's five Gervantes out there. He did the nationwide jingle. If the Bulls win, drive home safely, Chicago. Beep, beep. These are things that I hear watching other games, not even from the Bulls. So it's going to be very strange to hear somebody else on the broadcast regularly next year. Just sad. Yeah, from the TV side, he understood the entertainment part.

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You know, he really went into that side of things and played that one-two combo with Adam Amin now. And as you said, for a long time. And from the Chicago side... He was loved. Listening to everybody speak about him in the last 24 hours or so, I heard Ozzie Guillen talking about him and how much he had poured into the community and how much he was just loved and how he was just a lovable person.

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And then during the broadcast, you just know. You just know. It's Stacey King's voice. He not only had become anonymous with... the game itself, but just the way he did it, that persona, he, again, He had play-by-play men do the steady thing, and he came in with the jokes.

Chapter 3: How did Stacey King impact the basketball community?

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Yeah, the one-liners, the phrases, the nicknames.

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A line for everything.

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Yeah, exactly. And he had an unfathomable impact on just the fun of basketball. That's the number one thing I think of. This should be fun at the end of the day. It is. And I think that came across on a lot of his broadcasts. And also, you can speak to this better, Trey, as the Bulls fan. But I also thought he was a bit of a... a straight shooter when it came to the actual Bulls team itself.

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He wasn't one of these homers. He would call out the team or hold them accountable. He'd have fun at the other team's expense as well, but I always appreciated that too as someone that would dip in and out on the actual broadcast for the team because some of them are just like, the team can do no wrong.

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The player can do no wrong.

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He would... He wasn't like that to me. Not totally. I mean, if the Bulls would ever string together three wins in a row, he's definitely going to tell you that this is a different team, Chicago. This is a new Bulls team out there. It's not like last year. Called a lot of bad teams, but always made it fun.

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And like you're saying, if the Bulls are doing something ridiculous, he was going to call them out for it, whether it be Denzel Valentine pulling up from half court to try and win a game or booing Jerry Krause's widow. He's going to say what's on his mind. There's the famous clip that's going around right now of a guy shows up

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I think it's a Suns game and he's wearing like a bootleg Jordan jersey. And him and Amin go in for two straight minutes on this guy's jersey. No, I think he did apologize, at least on Twitter, to this guy. He's like, it is cool that you showed up to the game. He just got carried away having fun. A funny guy. but he also said that during the clip, during the live clip.

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Like, it's cool, you're celebrating Jordan, but yeah, also making fun of it. But he would react instantly too. When there was a bad moment that you're mentioning seats like Denzel Valentine throwing it up or anybody, he wouldn't just wait and try and, you know, find the nice words to say about it a little later on. It was instant. That second. And I love that about him.

Chapter 4: What are the Knicks' chances of sweeping the Spurs?

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Okay, that's cool. He also was the sixth pick in the 1989 draft. Trey, you already said it. I mean, helped. He did. He helped Jordan and the Bulls get those first three rings. He was a young guy, obviously, on a good team. Played his part, though. So, you know, he did have an NBA career and bounced around a little bit as it went on.

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But, yeah, definitely known more for the 19, 20 years on the Bulls broadcast. Really, really sad news. Only at 59 years old. He's gone. Young, and I mean, you could say he's been a part of my entire Bulls life.

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Being a part of the first Dynasty Championships, fell away from the team for a little bit, but then as soon as his NBA career was over, back with Chicago through all of their eras since, you know, the tanking era to the Derrick Rose era to the other tanking era. So I guess we're in the Giddy era now.

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And he even has calls for like a Josh Giddy shot, you know, call it the half quarter against the Lakers. This is the kind of shot we're going to see when we're all when we've all passed on. Kind of sad to hear now, considering what's happened. But I don't know. I did like getting to see like the top 10 Stacey King calls of all time.

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And you get to the one where Derek Rose is dunking on Goran Dragic.

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Classic moments.

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I want to go higher. Did you not get the memo? What is your favorite? Yeah. That one to me, I was like, that's the number one call for sure. And it even filters into like at the time, Auto-Tune the News was super popular, remember? And that was a great one. Did you not get the memo? I want to go higher. But I don't know. I wrote down like 10 different lines that I think of with Stacey King.

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So it'll be weird next year when whoever is doing the Jeff Vukovic nationwide is on your side ad read. Are they going to sing it? You almost have to in honor of Stacey. Yeah, big shoes to fill whoever it is. Look, I mean, at the end here, just the game of basketball is a little worse today without Stacey King going to be on the call.

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So again, our condolences to the Bulls organization and family and friends. And yeah, that's always a rough, rough news there over the weekend. Let's spin it into the NBA Finals Game 3 preview. We have basketball back tonight. All weekend without it after Friday night's entertaining Game 2. But a couple questions like we did leading into Game 2, but we do it for Game 3 tasks.

Chapter 5: Who is the NBA Finals MVP favorite and why?

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What has surprised you the most through the first two games of the NBA Finals? I would say that the Knicks outspurs the Spurs. The thing that we know traditionally about this team, they're going to outpass teams.

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Now, at the same time, this is a different era of the Spurs, and this is a different era of the Knicks, where we saw what they became after going down 2-1 to the Atlanta Hawks in round one with Carl Anthony Towns at the top. They became a more passy team. But with Victor Wemenyama on the floor, I just didn't know if that was going to be a thing, being able to move it all that much.

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But they have played the passing game way better than the Spurs. We saw, you know, when it broke the Spurs back in game two, when the Knicks were down seven late in the second quarter, and they had that play where they passed it five times in the last nine seconds of the shot clock, and Mikel Bridges hit it in the corner, splash, so now they're down four, nine.

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And that really was the turning point. They're up four at half, and they made it a 14-point lead in the third quarter. And so that is different. They had 50 more passes than the San Antonio Spurs in game two. It was only 22 in game one that they had more than the Spurs because everybody was playing poorly.

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But now it just feels like if they continue to do that, if it has a little bit of the beautiful game Spurs of 2014, then this thing might be over. And that's what we're looking at in game number three here. Then they go and get more offensive rebounds like this might be it. We might be close. We might be very, very close. If this game three starts like that, it might be over.

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So, yes, that's that's the thing that's jumped out. Like the Spurs couldn't recover in game two. They picked it up, obviously, in the fourth quarter, but it was too late. And so they're out Spurs and Spurs to some degree here. What about you? I think the most surprising thing is how much the Knicks defense is dominating this series.

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The Knicks defense has been the single best unit of offense and defense for both teams. They're only allowing 101 points per 100 possessions so far in these two games of the finals. That would be the best for any team in the playoffs. That would be the best for any team in the regular season. That's the lowest offensive rating a team has in any series this postseason.

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I went back and looked last year. We're talking about that Thunder defense, greatest defense of all time. Some were saying this would be lower than any of the postseason series last year, except for OKC versus Memphis in the first round. So I'm like, OK, is this the greatest defense we've ever seen in the finals? Let's go check the 99 finals. Spurs versus Knicks.

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Neither team over 100 points per 100 possessions, as neither team got to 100. So it's not quite 90s level defense, but I think the... extent to which the New York defense has been the best defense in this series is pretty surprising to me considering Brunson and Kat still playing massive minutes. The Knicks are shooting 41% in the finals. They're shooting 31 from three.

Chapter 6: What random questions do fans have about the Finals?

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They're winning with defense. Yeah, Schumann noted that the least or the two least efficient series for any team here in the playoffs so far were the Cavs in the conference finals and then now the Spurs in the NBA finals. So that obviously has a nice little button point there to your button point. Is that a saying? Just a button.

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Just a button. Or a bullet point. Yeah, or a bullet point. That's what I was going for.

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That the Knicks defense is that elite. Because I think just succinctly in game one, the Spurs problem, it felt like was just shot making. They were getting looks. They just couldn't knock them down. Game two, though, they struggled to generate really good looks consistently because of the defense so locked in. But I'll go with the biggest surprise.

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It is probably Cat outplaying Victor Wemenyama through two games so far. Offensively, Cat's been awesome. He's played his part. He's averaging 19.5 points, 12.5 rebounds, 4 assists on incredible efficiency. 55 from the floor, 43 from deep. He hasn't missed a free throw. He leads all players in the series in plus minus. So that's great. It's the defense.

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It's Cat's defense so far that has us a little bit shook, right? Because this is supposed to be their Achilles heel. Like, ugh. Yeah, Cat's defense, Brunson's defense, you're probably not going to be able to win a title that way. He's held up when he's been on Wemby. He's helped keep him in check. And he's forced as many turnovers as baskets when he's been on Wemby. So that is a huge, huge win.

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And then the best part is Cat is not committing dumb, stupid fouls. He only has... four shooting fouls against Wemby through these two games in a lot of matchups. So I don't think we saw that coming in this series, that Cat would be outplaying him so far. And he has on both ends. No. Yeah. I'm guilty. Ready to anoint Victor Weminyama as the guy. And he definitely has been playing shook.

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And Carl Anthony Towns has done the shaking. I mean, it has been. It's been him going right at Victor Weminyama and doing well defensively and staying on the floor for most of the time.

Chapter 7: What are the most memorable New York vs. alien movies?

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He went to the bench in that third quarter of game two, and that's when the game turned towards the Spurs. The Knicks were doing an incredible job playing defense on the perimeter, turning the ball over, and those ugly two fouls that I was scared it was going to turn. The game around for the Spurs and just because I didn't want that to be the narrative. Those dumb fouls.

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Both fouls should not have been called. And he goes to the bench, but the Knicks bench was able to maintain what they were doing. That was really, really impressive right there. So game three, man. Here it is.

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Here it is.

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This is the series right here tonight. That's what makes it exciting.

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Chapter 8: How did Canada’s U18 men's team make history?

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If you're a historian and you leave out half of what the history is, you're not doing your job.

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I'm Akilah Hughes, and Rebel Spirit season two goes deep on both of those things, the fights, the politics, the people who won, and my personal campaign to add something to the Kentucky State House that's actually worth the wall space.

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We are more than our bodies. We contain essence. We contain spirit. How do you represent that? They are just fueling a fire that is really catching.

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You'll see what I mean. Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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