S05 E09: Out of the Shadows
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Why did Chalice Howard decide to speak on the record?
And while I bear witness to an awful lot of horrific behavior in this line of work, I also get to witness people like Chalice, who we're talking to today, make the incredibly brave choice to see the truth and speak up. And that's what keeps me going. So without further ado, please meet my brave friend, Chalice Howard. I wanted to start just by asking you, how do you know Sophie Hartman? How did you two meet?
How did Chalice and Sophie become friends?
Yeah, so Sophie and I met back in 2015. We connected online through an adoptive parents Facebook group, I believe. Something of that nature. We had both spent time overseas, specifically. I had spent time in East Africa. And we had a lot of mutual friends on Facebook. So, yeah, we had connected, I believe, the summer of 2015 online.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
Why did Chalice Howard decide to speak on the record?
3:21–3:51
2
How did Chalice and Sophie become friends?
3:51–9:48
3
What was Chalice's perspective on Sophie's situation with CPS?
9:48–20:15
4
How did Chalice learn about the podcast and its impact on her view?
20:15–31:43
5
What led Chalice to reach out to Andrea?
31:43–46:15
6
How did Chalice navigate her relationship with Sophie after discovering the truth?
46:15–59:03
7
What was Chalice's interaction with Sophie's family like?
59:03–1:50:05