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Nobody Should Believe Me

Season 6 Trailer

Fri, 06 Jun 2025

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Season 6 of Nobody Should Believe Me–out weekly starting June 19, available in full for subscribers at launch– covers the extraordinary and tragic saga of the McDaniel family, a real-life Southern Gothic tale of Munchausen by Proxy that spans decades and has left untold damage in its wake.  For the past twelve years, Lisa McDaniel worked for The Guthy Jackson Foundation, a high-profile non-profit, dedicated to a rare disease called NMO (Neuromyelitis Optica), from which Lisa claims her son suffered.  But while Lisa appears to be a sweet Southern mom whose personal tragedy led to her heroic work, this image hides her dark history of abuse. How was Lisa able to keep her felony conviction for poisoning and suffocating her infant daughter hidden? How did her children slip through the cracks of the healthcare and legal systems again and again? What really happened to her son Collin?   Season Six breaks a story that is years in the making and made possible through the astounding courage of Mishelle Roberts. This season ties together many elements introduced in previous seasons: ways that systems fail vulnerable victims, the culture of silence and inaction within hospitals that enables abuse, and the damage done to rare disease advocacy and victims’ groups which can devastate families and echo through generations.  *** Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/ View our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/ Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/ Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI To support the show, go to http://Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit http://MunchausenSupport.com The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here: https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What is the story of the McDaniel family?

4.215 - 5.596 Michelle

True Story Media.

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Chapter 2: Why do people struggle to believe in family monsters?

13.719 - 18.961 Unidentified Speaker (Brief Interjection)

You said nobody wants to believe there's a monster in their family. You think she's a monster.

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Chapter 3: What secrets did Lisa McDaniel hide about her past?

18.981 - 25.203 Andrea Dunlop

I don't want to. But I don't know how else you describe somebody who does those things to children.

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Chapter 4: How has Michelle Roberts confronted her family's dark history?

26.553 - 33.497 Michelle

Michelle has lived in the shadow of her family's dark past for decades, but now she's ready to bring it into the light.

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Chapter 5: What impact did Lisa's actions have on her children?

34.057 - 46.785 Unidentified Speaker (Brief Interjection)

Please listen. Please listen. You're asking me to listen to you. Please listen to me. And we still don't have the whole story. Like, we still don't understand the whole picture. She was born, and I just remember being told that she was really sick.

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47.285 - 50.767 Michelle

Michelle's mother, Lisa McDaniel, has managed to keep her past buried.

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51.138 - 63.356 Unidentified Speaker (Brief Interjection)

How somebody could do that to a child that was so little and so helpless still to this day haunts me.

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63.876 - 70.124 Unidentified Speaker (Brief Interjection)

I'm actually amazed from what you're telling me that this child lived through this. The judge gave full custody back to them.

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70.144 - 77.208 Andrea Dunlop

I stood up and I told him, I hope you don't sleep when you go home tonight. You have no idea what you've done and you should be ashamed of yourself.

77.749 - 87.495 Michelle

Even after going to jail for medical child abuse, Lisa seemed to find every crack in the system to get her daughters back. And then she had a third child, her son Colin.

88.316 - 108.76 Unidentified Speaker (Brief Interjection)

One day, he got sick. After that, I don't think he ever went back to... a day that he wouldn't you should see my face right now because i'm thinking did he ever really have it the judges who gave us back as a caregiver you pour yourself into advocacy and helping other people that's who i am at heart as a helper there's a pattern

109.54 - 115.461 Lisa McDaniel

This fits a pattern and it is lethal. Munchausen by proxy.

115.641 - 123.102 Andrea Dunlop

Nobody else bothered to protect me. Nobody else bothered to protect my siblings. Lord, if you're going to take him, then go ahead and take him. Please do it now.

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