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Nobody's Listening, Right?

167 - A Shoe Cabinet Nightmare

Wed, 07 May 2025

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Andy’s principled nature forces him to step into an extremely high stakes argument about a new shoe cabinet, Elizabeth uncovers her political prospects, things are juiced, and so much more! It’s all covered on this week’s Nobody’s Listening, Right?  *Check out our NEW Daily Podcast:⁠ ⁠Nobody’s News⁠⁠* ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ Join Patreon for bonus episodes! Buy the Merch! Find us on Instagram Find us on TikTok⁠⁠ Watch us on YouTube Shop our recommendations Here ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ Chapters 00:00 Intro 03:59 Refundable Hotels 05:46 Parenting Misstep 09:22 Shoe Cabinet Drama 22:54 A Cabin Apology 28:18 ER Visit 28:40 Elizabeth's New Friend 37:46 Elizabeth The Politician Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: How do Elizabeth and Andy Feel About the New Shoe Cabinet?

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49.024 - 52.947 Elizabeth

And we're going to chat like no one's listening. And I want us to stay very true to that today.

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53.248 - 53.708 Andy

Fair enough.

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54.329 - 58.452 Elizabeth

We actually might get into like a real tender subject for us.

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59.133 - 59.473 Andy

Really?

59.493 - 63.377 Elizabeth

Yeah. Okay. But first of all, is anyone listening? No.

63.968 - 69.09 Andy

Yes, this is from Kay Lacey over on Apple. All right. Always listening.

69.37 - 69.91 Unknown Male 1

Love that.

70.33 - 74.011 Andy

When I'm listening to you two, I'm not listening to anyone else.

Chapter 2: What Mistake Did Elizabeth and Andy Make with Their Kids About Moving?

208.59 - 212.551 Andy

Like an affiliate program? Oh, no. Where you pay to get, like, fake news?

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213.091 - 213.332 Elizabeth

Yeah.

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213.352 - 218.196 Andy

Reviews? Mm-hmm. I think it's just called paying for fake reviews, right? Juice in the system.

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218.396 - 219.436 Elizabeth

Yeah, let's juice it.

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219.497 - 219.957 Andy

Fucking it up.

219.977 - 221.458 Elizabeth

Have you ever juiced anything?

222.139 - 223.3 Andy

Yes. Let me think.

223.5 - 226.002 Elizabeth

Well, you taught me today how to juice something.

226.522 - 226.722 Andy

What?

Chapter 3: How Do Elizabeth and Andy Handle Parenting Decisions?

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395.256 - 421.06 Elizabeth

Now... I want to caveat that with, I don't think we're going to live anywhere else and have the same friends and the amazing people who we love here so much and the creative community. There's so much to love here. It's mostly just a factor of... It's untenable to afford to live here full time if you're not working full time, both people, parents.

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422.04 - 429.903 Elizabeth

And so why not go live somewhere else if we don't have to be here to work and have kind of a better quality of life?

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430.103 - 430.283 Unknown Male 1

Yeah.

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431.277 - 463.764 Elizabeth

And then we were thinking, where else would we want to go? Like, why not go on a great big new adventure? And unfortunately, we were pretty open books about this and we kind of were feeling the kids out. Now, they're 9 and 11. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. At school about this.

463.924 - 472.309 Andy

Yeah. So we have been parents asking us or telling us. So we hear you're moving to France in which we realized, oh, we need to.

472.429 - 488.178 Elizabeth

So the cart was really ahead of the horse on this one and we had to rein it back. And so then once we did that, it wasn't until like our tickets were booked that we told them that we're even going on a trip because we just like really made a mistake.

488.199 - 488.519 Unknown Male 1

Yeah.

489.119 - 504.35 Elizabeth

So I think they're aware, even if I don't want to make the whole trip at all about we might move here. No. And we've pulled that back so much that we said to them, like, look, we're not moving to France. But for the record, they both were excited about the idea.

Chapter 4: Why Did Elizabeth and Andy Argue About the Cabin Sale?

544.486 - 547.528 Unknown Male 1

Just let me milk your dick and whatever, juice it.

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547.548 - 550.569 Andy

Juice it. Yeah, I don't like to be milked. Only juiced.

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553.211 - 555.252 Elizabeth

Okay, should we get to... Gross.

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555.952 - 557.873 Andy

Juicing sounds gross to me. Sorry.

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558.494 - 559.735 Elizabeth

The real issue at hand?

559.795 - 560.335 Andy

Yeah, what is it?

562.964 - 576.089 Elizabeth

I introduced something new into our lives this week that I think that the cost-benefit analysis weighs so heavily. Those scales, one's dropping to the side so swiftly.

576.109 - 577.85 Andy

Oh, the new juicer we bought?

578.29 - 580.431 Elizabeth

No, the new shoe cabinet.

Chapter 5: What Lessons Did Elizabeth Learn About Validation?

728.747 - 732.749 Elizabeth

And it it's now our cabinets are like a gray blue.

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732.769 - 733.889 Andy

In the kitchen.

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733.989 - 745.895 Elizabeth

In the kitchen. And then it would be like that's an extension of the cabinets into this little vestibule. Except it's not. Because as you pointed out, it's white. Maybe it looks a little low rent. Right.

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746.135 - 772.485 Elizabeth

the words you used yeah but i took two and a half hours of my day before spending a couple hours with you at the emergency room putting this thing together yeah and i do enjoy manual labor like i really like building things i like gardening i wish i knew how to like build houses i really do yeah i never did um habitat for humanity but that would have been so up my alley

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774.096 - 776.377 Andy

Just the building part, not the helping people part.

777.377 - 804.025 Elizabeth

No, both. I mean, it's like a win-win. And it looks good on your college application. So anyway, I put this thing together and I put it there and all of our shoes go in it. Plus there's other storage. Plus there's like, I put our little cookbooks up on it. So it really looks... It looks so clean and nice, and it's cleaned up like other areas in our kitchen where it was cluttered.

804.986 - 821.055 Elizabeth

And I'm obsessed, and our daughter is obsessed. And I put a new kitchen rug out in the middle of the kitchen. Everything has been elevated so exponentially for a pretty low cost and a little sweat equity. How much cost? I can look up right now.

821.255 - 822.096 Andy

Where'd you order it from?

822.636 - 824.998 Elizabeth

Amazon. Where else?

Chapter 6: How Do Elizabeth and Andy Deal with Change?

1162.484 - 1166.526 Elizabeth

And that's a good thing. But that's why I was thinking of my walk.

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1166.826 - 1173.689 Andy

I feel bad that you do have to do these gymnastics to get yourself to this place of understanding me and putting up with it.

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1173.95 - 1203.1 Elizabeth

We have kind of the perfect storm, and here's why. I put so much weight. Now I might cry. Not out of sadness, but just this is true. I require so much validation from you and I put so much weight into your opinion in a way that's not reciprocated. And that's not bad. And it's actually on this walk. I was like, I need to work on that. Like, I don't.

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1203.401 - 1210.765 Elizabeth

And I had to remind myself, like, how you used to live and stuff like your bar of shit should be is so low. Yeah.

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1212.786 - 1230.453 Andy

I love getting in the inside of how you justify all of this. Listen, he doesn't, he doesn't, he wouldn't even know what would be nice if it like fucking hit him across the face. Do you remember how he used to live? Come on, Elizabeth.

1230.573 - 1252.082 Elizabeth

But no, the truth is I need to work on finding internal validation and not putting so much. If your response, you are entitled to your opinion and I don't want you to change it for me. And so if that's your if that's your real response and always is, I need to find a way to be OK with myself and not like depend on your approval.

1252.102 - 1253.483 Andy

Sure, sure, sure.

1253.903 - 1267.235 Elizabeth

And so that's kind of a growth journey I'm on. But I felt a lot better about it when I got back. And now I hear that it's grown on you. And that's great.

1267.475 - 1269.177 Andy

It's a bit of a win, maybe, right?

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