How the Hedge Fund Magnetar Is Financing the AI Boom

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What is Magnetar’s new venture fund and why did they launch it?

Jason Kelly 0:00
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Tracy Alloway 0:17
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Tracy Alloway 1:20
Hello and welcome to another episode of the Odd Thoughts Podcast. I'm Tracy Alloway
Joe Weisenthal 1:24
and I'm Joe Weisenthal.
Tracy Alloway 1:26
Joe, AI is so hot right now. In the immortal words of uh Mugatu, AI is so hot.
Joe Weisenthal 1:33
It is yes, it is really hot. You know, you hear something, oh, there's a little bit of slowing down and some of the progress on the models, but the recent NVIDIA results speak for themselves. There's nothing that I've seen yet that would suggest that this macro trend, at least th as an investment trend, and I'm not talking about stocks per se, is anywhere close to quote slowing down.
Tracy Alloway 1:57
Yeah. And the interesting thing is we seem to be having more and more players, some new types of players that are getting into the space. So, you know, we have AI funds kind of launching left and right. And one of the newest players is a hedge fund called Magnetar. And I know them like primarily for credit stuff. I think they were big in red cap trades for a while. Yeah. And now they're launching an AI fund, uh a V C fund, which is kind of unusual for this type of hedge fund to do.
Joe Weisenthal 2:25
Totally. I mean, I've heard of Magnetar for a long time, obviously going back to the early 2010s at least. And look, I'm not surprised that various investors are looking for what is their distinct way into this space. And of course, look, we've done interviews with VCs of various nature and positions in the past. And so I guess, you know, there's sort of two questions to my mind anytime we're gonna be talking to someone investing in early stage or any stage of AI, which is obviously. What is the thesis? What's gonna win out? Where will value accrue? But then from an investor perspective, Given so many entrants into this space, specifically whether on the public equity side, whether on the private side, whether on the VC side, early stage, late stage, what do they as a fund or an investor bring to the table or will be able to see that the other billions of dollars competing for AI profits do not see?
Tracy Alloway 3:24
I have a slightly different question, which is for these types of investors, like how much is it about? how good the technology is that they're investing in versus how much is it about getting in the right position in the capital stack. So That's
Joe Weisenthal 3:38
a great question. I
Tracy Alloway 3:39
think it's going to be really interesting to talk to someone who's coming from this perspective. And without further ado, we have the perfect guest. We're going to be speaking with Jim Prusco. He is a partner and senior portfolio manager on Magnetar's alternative credit and fixed income team. Jim, welcome to the show. Thank you. Great to
Jim Prusco 3:59
be here.
Tracy Alloway 3:59
So how does someone on a hedge fund's fixed income team get into AI?
Jim Prusco 4:05
Well, we have a long history of investments in private companies really dating back to an increased focus after the financial crisis when spreads and yields got tighter and the private markets seemed more interesting. And we've often partnered with platforms where we thought we could grow the platform and generate an interesting asset, either a pool of cash flowing assets or help grow the company and participate in that growth and support them through financing.

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