How to Move Freight Across the Icy Roads of Alaska
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Hello and welcome to another episode of the Oddlots Podcast. I'm Joe Weisenthal.
And I'm Tracy Alloway.
So, Tracy, we're here in Alaska. We're still here in Alaska.
We are. It's beautiful. It's stunning. And it's bright. It stays light until like 11 PM.
It's so bright. I couldn't believe it. It's amazing. Alaskan August. It's the best. It's already such a fascinating place to me.
What iconic industries will we be talking about while we're in Alaska, Joe?
Well, there's many industries that we've hit over and over. Obviously, we like to talk to people in the trucking industry for all kinds of reasons. But also, like one of the things that I'm aware of is that Alaska has its own distinct trucking culture. I think there was a reality TV show about it, right?
Ice Road Truckers? Yeah, right. Wasn't
that based here?
Yes. I have questions about how realistic that actually is, but you are absolutely right that trucking in Alaska is this sort of well-known thing, maybe because of the reality TV show. But when you think about trucking in Alaska, you think like these crazy, like mud-riddled roads and people having to cart these like huge payloads of I don't know. I heard it was mostly dirt in the summertime because people are doing a lot of road construction, but I don't know that much about
I don't know that much about it. Trucking is a fun topic to cover, A, because it's just an interesting logistical industry in any environment. And then B, I don't think anyone has a better pulse on the economy at any given moment than people in trucking. So while we're here in Alaska, for all these obvious reasons, we gotta talk trucking.
I think you have to come clean, Joe, and admit your secret dream to become an owner operator working in Alaska. I don't even know if that's possible.
Well, let's find out. I'm really excited to say we really do have the perfect guest. We're gonna be speaking with Josh Norm. He is the president and owner of Sourdough Express. Josh, thank you so much for uh coming on the podcast.
Yeah, thanks for having me. What is What does Sourdough Express mean and what is the company? So Sourdough Express is a trucking company in Alaska. All of our assets are based in Alaska. My family bought it in the 1920s. It's been in existence since 1898. So we're celebrating 127 years this year. We are an all-service trucking company. So we we run their haul road, the ice road's up in Prudhoe Bay. We haul between Anchorage and Fairbanks, which are the two main population centers of Alaska. We also own a moving and storage company that focuses on DOD military members moving in and out of Alaska's military bases. What?
What does sourdough actually mean in those contexts? Because I hear sourdough express and I think, are you like, you know, driving around huge huge loads of baked goods?
Yeah, most people think that we're a bakery, but no, sourdough is a basically a long term Alaskan. So somebody who's been here for many years or experienced winters here and and really understand the culture of Alaska and uh understand what it takes to live here.
So just one more question before we dig into the now. But you said your family bought this company in the nineteen twenties and it's existed into the late eighteen hundreds. What was it actually in the early nineteen hundreds? Because I assume you weren't, you know, it wasn't big trucks back then.
Yeah. So most of uh the freight coming into Alaska then was gold mining and they were coming from Dawson City. And so the owner Bob Ellis ended up coming into Alaska and establishing in Fairbanks.
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–8:59
2
What is the background and history of Sourdough Express?
8:59–19:04
3
How does Sourdough Express move the majority of its freight across Alaska?
19:04–34:02
4
What unique weather and road challenges do Alaska truckers face (chains, hills, avalanches)?
34:02–40:53
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