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What is the historical background of the economic ideas behind Zohran Mamdani’s policies?
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Hello and welcome to another episode of the Odd Lots Podcast. I'm Jill Weissenthal.
And I'm Tracy Alloway.
Tracy, it's uh January twenty eighth. I think our new mayor in here in New York City, I mean he hasn't done much, but the snowstorm seemed to go fairly well. Not too many big disruptions.
I wasn't here, but you were able to walk around, get out of your apartment.
There have been m several mayors whose like entire reputation failed because they couldn't handle a snowstorm until he seems to have passed the first test. So I mean
it feels like a low bar for New York mayors, I gotta say.
My guess is if we looked at uh I agree. It is a low bar, but on the other hand, it's like, okay, first big test of the new administration seems to be doing well. I don't think, however, ultimately the Zoran Mamdani administration will be judged on snow removal. Like this is not gonna be how history probably remembers how well
No, and he certainly wasn't elected on his snow removal capabilities. Although I did see the videos of him, you know, getting his shovel out and
he's so good at like retail politics. Like that was like so he was so good at that. Yeah.
But Speaking of tests, I mean there are bigger tests coming up, right? Mostly concentrated in the economic policies here.
Right. I think we know like sort of and of course we talk to him, but like the affordability question in New York City, clearly central, one of the, if the most central topic in the campaign. And what I would say is that the very most not all of them, but at least a handful of the ideas that he has proposed are the types of ideas that like economists hate them. Right. So especially Anything where the government is intervening in rent, the idea like I there might not be a more hated idea among economists than anything that smacks rent control or anything like that.
Right. So I am not very knowledgeable when it comes to actual economic theory and how it's developed over time. But one thing I do know is that, you know, the sort of forerunner or ancestor of a lot of traditional economic theory that we see today, like neoclassical economic theory. Adam Smith, right? Talking about like the free hand of the market and how if the market is functioning, like everything should be fine, right?
Yeah. And the and I think like economists, even like, you know, almost all but the most sort of true hardcore laissez-faire economists would say that there are areas that, you know, they call it market failure, right? Right. There are certain situations in which maybe we can't expect markets to do the job. Maybe they'd say like, oh, it really doesn't make sense to have like private fire departments, for example. Although some people actually do propose private fire. departments. But yeah, you know, even the most sort of like true believers as sort of liberal or neoclassical economics, they're like, Oh yeah, well there are market failures.
Right. In which case the government should say.
But only in failure.
How did classical political economy evolve into neoclassical orthodoxy?
That it unless you that you like define some area as like, okay, there's a reason why markets don't work for this particular area. But that the after then sandboxing a few of those things, then it's like, okay, as much as possible, you just wanna you wanna let the market
out don't interfere.
Let the price signals do their work.
Yeah. So this has become, I guess, the orthodoxy.
Yeah.
And Mamdani is very much in the
The
heterodox. The heterodox. Yeah, that's a word that always comes up when people are talking about well, when economists are talking about policies that they don't like.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the historical background of the economic ideas behind Zohran Mamdani’s policies?
0:01–3:41
2
How did classical political economy evolve into neoclassical orthodoxy?
3:41–10:38
3
Why do economists label rent‑control and similar interventions as “heterodox”?
10:38–19:01
4
What role did institutions and law play in shaping economic theory from the 19th to the 20th century?
19:01–26:39
5
How did post‑World War II reconstruction influence the rise of state‑guided industrial policy?
26:39–35:02
6
What are the arguments for treating market failures as built‑in social costs rather than anomalies?
35:02–43:02
7
How can modern housing‑affordability debates be informed by historical examples of price caps and public subsidies?
43:02–51:50
8
What does the discussion suggest about the future of heterodox economics in American policy making?
51:50–57:37
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