Mary Daly on Why Alaska Is a Leading Indicator for the US Economy
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What is the purpose of the Alaska field trip and who is the guest?
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Hello and welcome to another episode of the Oddlots Podcast. I'm Tracy Alloway.
And I'm Joe Weisenthal.
Joe, I don't know about you, but when I think about Alaska, I think about snow, glaciers, gold, oil, pipelines, northern exposure, small planes, and the twelfth district of the Federal Reserve system of banks.
That's literally the exact list that I think, includ in in that precise order. What a coincidence.
I can't believe it. All right. Well, we are in fact here in Alaska in Anchorage to be specific. And it's a really interesting time to be taking a field trip to the very, very northern state, because Alaska actually has a lot of relevance to our current period.
See, you know, uh, we used to talk about how like Arizona was a very odd lots of state. Oh, yeah. And I still think but this is a very odd lots state because there are so many specific things that we're you hear about here, whether it's uh demographic shift, oil, obviously. Logistics logistics is huge. It's you just feel the presence of the various train and plane hubs and ship hubs here in Alaska. So it is and housing, which uh has a very Difficult housing environment here too. So it is a very meaty area for us to do uh coverage.
Absolutely. And we do in fact have the perfect guest to talk all about it. We are going to be speaking with Mary Daly. She is, of course, the San Francisco Fed president and therefore the president of the 12th district. And Alaska is in that district. And she's here on a trip and she's going to talk to us for quite a while. So Mary, welcome to the show. Thank you so much. I'm delighted to be here.
I'm so delighted that we're in Alaska together. I was gonna ask, how often do you actually come here? I come regularly, but it's not just me. Members of my team, economists, our engagement officers, our public engagement officers, they come too. Ultimately, we're trying to source information from all of our states. So we go to all the states in our district. There's nine of them, and we ask questions of all of them about how they're living in the economy, what are the things that concern them, what are the opportunities. opportunities, what are the challenges?
So big picture, how's the Alaska economy right now? Or what do you what constitutes the Alaska economy actually?
Well, let me tell you something I learned the first time I came to Alaska. It isn't an economy. It's a series of economies. Right. If you go to the more remote areas that you can only say access by airplane, you can't eat there are no roads. They live on a c in a cashless economy that's subsistence. That looks very different than Angarich, where you're using your digital wallet to pay for things locally that more familiar to the lower forty eight. And so really when you think of Alaska, you have to think of economies, communities, and you have to imagine that the leaders here and the population here has to come together to ensure that all the decisions they make serve the variety of needs they have. I think that's what makes it so rich.
It really is at the forefront of so many things that can affect the national economy that it's a really great place to learn.
Is Alaska of particular relevance at this particular moment in time when, you know, uncertainty is the word of the day. We do have tariffs going on, uh inflation is still a lingering concern. And Alaska, of course, does already have a high cost of living.
So, you know, think about Alaska as right now a leading indicator. They're sitting in the the perfect storm, if you will, of all the things going on in our economy.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the purpose of the Alaska field trip and who is the guest?
0:01–10:42
2
How does Alaska’s unique economy serve as a leading indicator for the U.S.?
10:42–21:11
3
What are businesses in Alaska saying about tariffs and inflation pressures?
21:11–32:03
4
How are small Alaskan firms using AI to boost productivity and cut costs?
32:03–42:41
5
What data sources and on‑the‑ground insights does the Fed use to shape monetary policy?
42:41–52:03
6
How does the Fed balance trade‑offs between inflation control and labor‑market health?
52:03–1:02:49
7
What does Mary Daly see as the biggest risks and opportunities for the U.S. economy ahead?
1:02:49–1:12:13
8
What key takeaways and next steps does the host highlight before closing?
1:12:13–1:16:31
Speakers
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