The Growing Risk to Fed Independence That Wall St Isn't Watching
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Hello and welcome to another episode of the Odd Thoughts Podcast. I'm Tracy Alloway.
And I'm Joe Weisenthal.
Joe, it's been a big week for us. We were cited in an SEC filing for the interview we did with Brad Jacobs. I think it's the first time I've ever seen a full podcast transcript. It
was nice because you we used to write transcripts and it's like now it's getting to be so much work. And then it turned out, so we recently were interviewed Brad Jacobs, his team did a full transcript and submitted it to the SEC. It was very nice of them. Doing our
work for us. And then the other thing that happened is we were also cited in a lawsuit, all in one week.
All in one week. That's right. You know, we've done some episodes. We were down in DC recently, and we had the opportunity to interview the new chair of the FTC under President Trump. And a section of that interview actually got included in a news lawsuit. Actually, you could take a listen to it.
There's also, I think, some benefits in certain circumstances to having multi-member agencies with people from both parties. I mean, look, if you have an agency that is exceeding the law, abusing the companies that it purports to regulate, it's helpful for markets, for courts, for litigants, for government transparency to have people on the other party pointing this out and saying it in a sense like, you know, I wrote four. four hundred plus pages of dissents during my time as a minority commissioner. I think that that adds value.
Right. So we spoke to Andrew Ferguson. He was talking about how much he loves having minority commissioners. And then the very next day, there was news that Trump had fired the two Democratic commissioners, Alvaro Badoya and Rebecca Kelly Slaughter. And so they have since filed this lawsuit in which were cited, arguing that they were illegally fired. Commissioners are supposed to be fired based. on an actual reason. You have to have cause. And I don't think there was any really cited in this. And the interesting thing here is I know it seems like a very niche topic. Why are we discussing this FTC lawsuit other than the fact that we're mentioned in it? But it could have really broad implications.
Yeah. No, this is the key thing, right? And so it's not just FTC. There have been some other instances already in this administration of President Trump removing people who are sort of part of various entities that exist within the federal government, which at least formally in recent administrations have had some notion of independence. And there is this popular sort of conservative legal theory that all of these are kind of Illegitimate That there are three branches of government: judicial, legislative, and executive. There's not really room for these other things that are literally outside the executive. And so what we've seen is this sort of assertion through these uh removals, firings of the uh FTC commissioners plus others of this idea, like, no, these entities are all under the president.
Some of the implications could be pretty big.
Right. Well, there is the Federal Reserve, which is an independent agency. And we know there is this populist feeling, let's put it that way, against the Federal Reserve. You know, people think about it as this sort of ivory tower filled with unelected technocrats. Speaking of unelected technocrats, did you see uh Elon Musk's speech in Wisconsin over the weekend?
I missed it.
He was talking about the Fed and someone asked him, Do you plan to do something with the Fed? And he basically said, Yeah, and the Fed and then said in a competition between a magic eight ball and the central bank for interest rates, I don't know exactly what that means, but he said the magic eight ball would win.
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