What China's Military Parade and Newest Jets Tell Us About the Battle For Air Supremacy

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Joe Weisenthal 1:04
Hello and welcome to another episode of the Oddlots podcast. I'm Jill Weisenthal.
Tracy Alloway 1:09
And I'm Tracy Alloway.
Joe Weisenthal 1:10
Tracy, did you catch any of the clips from the big uh Chinese military parade?
Tracy Alloway 1:15
I did. I did. So this was the this is actually really good timing. So we're recording this. They really
Joe Weisenthal 1:19
know how to put on a parade. They really know how to put on a military parade.
Tracy Alloway 1:22
We're recording this on September 4th. Uh, we just had a massive military parade in Beijing that Xi Xin Bing put on. This was while Putin was there and also Kim Jong-un. And there were tanks, there were helicopters, there were lots and lots of drones, nuclear-capable missiles. There were robot dogs. Robot wolves. Oh. Much more sinister. There were also 80,000 doves to mark uh China's victory in World War II. two and I have to say when I first saw that I was reading a translation of the parade and it said 80,000 pigeons. And I thought like, wait a second, are we bringing back carrier pigeons for military use or what? But it's 80,000 symbolic doves.
Joe Weisenthal 2:00
So you're of the view that China won World War Two. No, that's a joke. I don't want to I'm not interested in Is that what
Tracy Alloway 2:06
the episode's I'm not
Joe Weisenthal 2:07
interested in getting into debates about attribute uh that's actually I'm not that interested in that topic. I feel like that would be a a big diversion. But yes, whenever I see the I don't know, I don't know anything about weapons. I'm like a bad man in that respect. No, I feel I'm a
Tracy Alloway 2:21
what happened to all the military history books you're reading? I guess those are outdated weapons.
Joe Weisenthal 2:24
I'm interested in like sort of the economics of the politics, but when I see people posting about oh wow, this is a fourth gen hypersonic, whatever I like, I have no idea. It's probably like what some people think about when you and I post about, you know, the UK two ten linkers spread or whatever. Something like that.
Tracy Alloway 2:44
You know it means something when you don't know what.
Joe Weisenthal 2:47
You know it also is like, okay, a lot of people like to flex their knowledge at tim again, a lot of men on the internet like to uh flex their knowledge about stuff like that.
Tracy Alloway 2:54
Everyone wants to be an armchair military strategist or procurement specialist.
Joe Weisenthal 2:59
All that being said, there are a couple of things that I'm interested in. One is sort of did the military parade tell us anything new about the state of the art of Chinese military technology? But also, you know, of course, several months ago, there was a sort of brief conflict between India and Pakistan. It was sort of, I believe, earlier in the summer or late spring, and there were battles between fighter jets. And for a moment there was a lot of question about did this reveal something? Mm-hmm. About the state of the art of who has the best Air Force, who has the best Air Force technology, and everyone was like pouring over the data to see what we learned. And so it is a good time to maybe get a temperature check on some of these questions about who has the best weapons and the concerns or the anxiety in DC about where we stand, where our allies stand, and so forth.
Joe Weisenthal 3:47
Lots of interesting questions being raised right now.
Tracy Alloway 3:49
Right. And there's clearly a lot of angst about the US's position in terms of military power right now. Totally. I gotta say, when it comes to India Pakistan, everything I know about India Pakistan um air force tensions comes from the Bollywood movie Veer Zara.

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