Why Adam Posen Thinks Inflation Will Surge Back to 4%
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Hello and welcome to another episode of the Oddlots Podcast. I'm Joe Weisenthal and
I'm Tracy Alloway.
Tracy, you know, future economy, it's always uncertain. Path of the path of inflation, path of employment, always big debates. I think what's really interesting right now, compared to a few years ago, maybe, is, you know, at various times it's like inflation is gonna come down, but there's a fight over how fast, right? And now you have a situation which there are people who argue both sides. Some people is like, oh no, we're on a, you know, we're heading down. the sort of yield data camp, et cetera. Yeah. And others are like, look, we're reaccelerating. It's gonna get hot again. And we're recording this February eleventh. We just had a fairly strong jobs print, et cetera. And so some people are making the reacceleration argument.
We are so back. So back. Well, that jobs report. I mean, it was a blowout numbers. 130,000 jobs added in January versus expectations for sixty-five thousand. And even if you drill down into it, like it looks pretty good, right? But you're absolutely right. So we used to argue about how far we would travel in one direction, you know, inflation. Is it gonna be four percent? Is it gonna be five percent? Whatever. And now we're sort of arguing about which direction we're actually gonna go.
Totally. And I think like if you just look like, okay, one jobs report, can't, you know, take it with a grain of salt. There is, there does seem to be a lot of evidence of some softening in the labor market by a lot of different measures, et cetera. Housing market continues to be fairly soft. On the other hand, look at various commodities, you know, look at copper, look at a bunch of other stuff, look at trucking prices, freight picking back up, et cetera.
I wrote about this in the Ot Lots newsletter.
Yeah. There's uh lots of things that are going in the other direction and you would say, look, this looks like reflation.
Yep. So we are gonna be speaking with someone who had a non consensus call about a month ago. But again, I think it's becoming maybe more consensus by the day, by the hour as we get these types of reports.
Totally. Well, we really do have the perfect guest to sort of give us an a a a different take, a sort of I would say it's still a little bit out of consensus call, but um definitely um not the direction that uh a lot of people wanna see. Definitely not the direction if you think that the Fed should cut rapidly this year. Maybe we'll talk some Fed stuff. We're gonna be speaking, of course, to Adam Posen. He is the president of the Peterson Institute and recently co-authored a piece with uh Uh Peter Orsag. Uh four percent inflation? What? Uh yeah. Adam, thanks for uh coming back and joining us here in studio. Four percent inflation, really.
Thanks, Tracy. Thanks, Joe, for having me back. Yeah, I I mean, I've got friends who say I should have just said three point five and that would have been enough out of considerability for me. Exactly. But I think it's realistic to think about four percent by the end of the year on headline CPI.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–4:41
2
What is the current debate about the speed of inflation’s return to the Fed’s 2% target?
4:41–5:28
3
How do Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway frame the disagreement over inflation’s direction?
5:28–15:14
4
Why does Adam Posen predict headline CPI will reach 4% by year‑end?
15:14–43:55
5
What labor‑market and commodity signals does Posen cite as evidence of re‑acceleration?
43:55–59:50
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