Why Americans Are Falling Behind on Auto Loans At Their Highest Level Ever
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What is the overall state of the U.S. consumer economy and why are auto loan delinquencies rising?
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Hello and welcome to another episode of the Oddlots Podcast. I'm Joe Weisenthal
and I'm Tracy Alloway.
Crazy, I feel like I just do not have any feel right now on like the state of the consumer really. I mean, you hear K shaped economy, labor markets slowing down, then it's like lowest layoffs in years, you go outside, everything looks booming. Like I just have no feel, right? I know consumer sentiment is terrible, but consumer sentiment is terrible for years and people keep shopping. I have no sense of it, right?
Well, consumer sentiment actually came in higher than expected most recently.
True.
Big surprise. But I was gonna say, are you not out shopping for Christmas presents? It's insane, right? Yeah. There's a lot of people buying a lot of stuff. But I think this gets to the K-shaped economy point, which is if you have a cohort of wealthy people who are buying more, it more than offsets the lower income people who are buying less at lower prices. So it's really hard to tell.
It's really hard to tell. One thing that definitely feels different, if you look at aggregate measures of household balance sheets. Like, this is something that is very different than sort of like pre-grade financial crisis. The general view is that the American consumer or the American household has a very big cushion. There is a lot of home equity built up. That is not a thin layer. Obviously, anyone with money and any sort of investment account has done phenomenally well. We're recording this December 12th, yesterday.
How do rising car prices, higher interest rates, and insurance costs create an “auto squeeze” for borrowers?
I think the SP 500 hit yet a new all-time high. So if you have any sort of home equity buildup, if you have any sort of investment, you're doing very well. On the other hand, of course, people are stretched from years of inflation. We know that hiring has slowed down. We know that, you know, we see these headlines. Delinquencies for cars have like shot up, but I've been seeing these headlines for years. I don't totally know what they mean or how apples to apples they are with the past. I just don't know.
Yeah, you know what's really interesting to me just from a financial perspective, if you look at some of the bonds that were actually built on consumer loans, the weakest ones are now from the like twenty twenty to twenty twenty two period.
Oh. See, this is another interesting element of measures like delinquencies and why I sort of wonder like how comparable they are, because okay, partly a delinquency measure is a snapshot of a moment in time, right? A snapshot of health. But it also inherently reflects something in the past because it reflects, you know, what were lending standards at the time. Right, exactly. So it you know, and that was a period of low And that was a period of
low interest rates. Everything was booming on Wall Street.
Anyway. We need to get a better picture of exactly what's going on. How stressed is the consumer? How much do these delinquencies just reflect the profligacy of lenders during the boom times when rates were nothing, et cetera? And uh yes, we need to figure this out, especially we're in the middle of shopping season and all that stuff.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the overall state of the U.S. consumer economy and why are auto loan delinquencies rising?
0:00–2:54
2
How do rising car prices, higher interest rates, and insurance costs create an “auto squeeze” for borrowers?
2:54–5:27
3
Who is Rikard Bandebo and what does VantageScore do differently from traditional FICO scores?
5:27–7:57
4
How does VantageScore use alternative data (rent, utilities, time‑series credit information) to expand credit access?
7:57–10:28
5
What trends in auto‑loan delinquencies have emerged since the pandemic and why are they now at historic levels?
10:28–13:12
6
Why are higher‑income households showing rising auto‑loan delinquencies despite larger wealth cushions?
13:12–16:02
7
How are changes to mortgage‑score rules and the rise of BNPL affect overall consumer credit risk?
16:02–19:11
8
What are the key takeaways for lenders and consumers about the growing fragility of credit markets?
19:11–53:02
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