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The Paper Ep 7: I Love You

18 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic of The Paper episode 'I Love You'?

4.503 - 13.698 Jenna Fischer

I'm Jenna Fisher. And I'm Angela Kinsey. We were on The Office together. And we're best friends. And now we're doing the ultimate Office Lovers podcast just for you.

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14.078 - 43.892 Angela Kinsey

Each week, we will dive deeper into the world of The Office with exclusive interviews, behind-the-scenes details, and lots of BFF stories. We're The Office Lady 6.0. Hello. Hello. I want to wish you guys all the best day ever. You're very chipper. I am. Nice. I love it. I had some of those yogurt-covered gummy bears. Wait, what? You haven't had a yogurt-covered gummy bear?

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43.872 - 49.241 Jenna Fischer

It sounds medicinal. It's not. These are regular gummy bears covered in yogurt? Yeah, how much THC is in there?

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49.822 - 73.484 Angela Kinsey

There's none. There's none. I'm like, is this explaining things? I got them in it, like, at Christmas. From who? From Odyssey. To be fair, you got them as well. Wait, you got them as well. They were in our Christmas basket that they sent. That was so nice. And I was digging through that random snacks drawer in the pantry. Josh was like, we got to clean out this next drawer.

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73.845 - 88.684 Angela Kinsey

He decided to do it five minutes before I was walking out the door. But I was like, I'll take these yogurt. And I ate them in the car. I don't know what to tell you. They're really good. I mean, they're a couple months old, but they held up. Okay, I'll look for them.

Chapter 2: How does Ned's character deal with authority figures in this episode?

89.044 - 90.987 Angela Kinsey

Highly recommend. How are you today?

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91.048 - 112.962 Jenna Fischer

Well, lady, I've been better. Oh. And I'll tell you why. Oh. I am so full. Of eggs. Eggs? I don't think I've ever consumed so many eggs. Why? And I'm sad about it. It's not going great for me.

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113.783 - 115.485 Angela Kinsey

I'm so confused by this.

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115.565 - 123.395 Jenna Fischer

Did you just make yourself a huge old omelet this morning? So I'm trying to eat more protein to build my lean mass.

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123.655 - 123.795

Mm-hmm.

125.648 - 159.854 Jenna Fischer

With my weight lifting. And so I asked ChatGPT. Oh, no. To suggest some high-protein meals. What did it say? It said that a great breakfast is two eggs plus three-quarters of a cup of egg whites. Ew. Scrambled. And a piece of toast with some avocado. Okay. What are you going to go chop down a tree? Lady, can I show you a picture of how many eggs I ate this morning?

160.155 - 188.908 Jenna Fischer

I made them and I was like, this would serve a family. That's a large plate. Yeah. And I ate them. You ate all of them. I did it. Do you feel a little gross? You do. I never want to eat another egg for the rest of my life. I went to chat GPT and I wrote, I said, hey, that was too many eggs for me. Could I get a different breakfast that's just as high in protein, but less volume?

Chapter 3: What behind-the-scenes insights did director Jen Salata share?

188.968 - 212.445 Jenna Fischer

And so it gave me some other suggestions. I'll try maybe tomorrow. But I still, I'm not over it. It was three hours ago. Yeah, you're egg heavy. I am. Yeah. I should have had the gummy bear things you're talking about. I'd be in a better mood. Except I'm probably going to like sugar crash in like 15 minutes. Well, my body better be making muscle right now. That's all I have to say.

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212.545 - 234.045 Jenna Fischer

All right, body, get on it. Listen, let's get to our fan chitchat question of the week. This one is coming in from Jonathan S. in Tampa, Florida. Jonathan wanted us to read his suggestion, and here's what it is. Jonathan says, who is responsible for raising and lowering the toilet seat when at least one person in the household stands up to urinate?

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234.385 - 240.01 Angela Kinsey

Oh, well, Jonathan, this sounds like you're ready to pick a fight. This might get spicy.

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241.351 - 250.652 Jenna Fischer

Well... I have the answer to this question and no one will ever have to wonder again. Okay. But I'd like you guys to weigh in as well.

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250.952 - 253.999 Angela Kinsey

Okay. Well, we've got two gals and two dudes here today.

254.039 - 254.3 Nate

Yeah.

254.32 - 256.886 Angela Kinsey

Matt, Sam. Can I say something? Yes, Matt.

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Okay.

258.404 - 274.185 Nate

To me, this one's a no brainer. Everyone's responsible for lowering. The seat should be lowered at all times. This was one of the three main things I think my mom taught me from my childhood is don't smoke cigarettes, don't drink and drive and lower the toilet seat every time.

Chapter 4: What humorous moments stand out in the episode's plot?

284.811 - 285.933 Matt

You only get one set of teeth.

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286.514 - 290.719 Jenna Fischer

My gosh. I love how this is segued into advice from our moms. This is terrific.

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290.98 - 309.747 Angela Kinsey

Yeah. My mom was like, this is the bathroom etiquette. You lower the seat. If you raised it, you lower it. She also said, Angela, men live their lives by the pecker between their legs. Remember that. She told me that when I was 16.

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309.827 - 318.666 Matt

I was like, oh, is this your version of a sex talk? I was going to say, you picked up zero sexual phrases since then. That's the last one someone said to you that made sense.

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318.786 - 323.416 Angela Kinsey

That my mom said to me, and I wasn't quite sure what a pecker was, but I figured it out. Great.

325.781 - 329.662 Jenna Fischer

Here's my thing. It's math. I can bring it down to math.

329.943 - 330.844 Angela Kinsey

Oh, you like math.

331.004 - 349.168 Jenna Fischer

Yeah. And you know what? I love this. If you raise it, then you lower it, I think is a great way to think about it. But here's another way to think about it. For the most part, women pee sitting down and poo sitting down. Both of the things they're doing on the toilet require the seat to be down.

349.389 - 349.629 Angela Kinsey

Yes.

Chapter 5: How do the characters Esmeralda and Ken plot against Marv?

379.783 - 382.809 Angela Kinsey

I'm curious, Sam, Matt, have you guys ever peed sitting down?

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383.27 - 386.556 Matt

Yeah, absolutely. That's music festivals all the time at porta potties.

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387.059 - 388.902 Angela Kinsey

Oh, interesting. Why?

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388.942 - 393.73 Jenna Fischer

Why then? Why? Why is that when you're sitting? That's when I'm standing to pee.

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393.79 - 403.425 Matt

I'm usually squatting, squatting. I'm usually rolling at the point. So I'm usually on mushrooms or something where I need I need to be sitting down. I need my full attention to not be peeing on myself.

404.126 - 404.587 Jenna Fischer

I see.

404.827 - 406.57 Matt

Yes. Wow. This is in the past.

406.55 - 437.913 Angela Kinsey

Of course, in the past. Got it. Now, this is kind of random, but my grandfather, they added on a little like side room to their house for like a little home office and they put a bathroom in it and he wanted a urinal. So they had a toilet and they had a urinal and he was so excited about it. And we as kids were just fascinated by it. I was like, what is that thing? Like the girls anyway.

438.374 - 448.791 Angela Kinsey

And then my dad, when my mom and dad built their house out on our farm, my dad was like, I want a urinal. So there is a urinal in my mom and dad's bathroom.

Chapter 6: What is the significance of the 'I love you' moment in the episode?

479.905 - 484.01 Jenna Fischer

But this was like 15 years ago and I didn't really know about that one.

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484.23 - 487.975 Matt

Well, you're an early adopter. Yeah, that's a bidet adopter.

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488.073 - 492.399 Angela Kinsey

They had them in our house in Indonesia, but it was my Barbie fountain.

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493.68 - 500.309 Jenna Fischer

I rented a home with a bidet and I got so attached to it. When I bought my house, I was like, I need it.

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501.27 - 507.398 Angela Kinsey

Well, now they have the fancy toilet where the bidet is like part of the toilet. Right. Toto toilet. Yeah. Yeah.

508.98 - 513.085 Matt

All right. While we're all here, what are we all on squatty potties? Yay? Nay?

514.247 - 523.227 Angela Kinsey

Oh, nay. Josh got one. And it's a fad. He gets into fads, guys. He's like, this is how we're supposed to go.

523.247 - 526.814 Matt

Yeah, I remember when they were very popular. I didn't notice a difference either.

526.834 - 543.69 Angela Kinsey

We ditched it. It didn't work for me. My legs aren't long enough. It put me in an odd position. We can be done talking about all this now. Jonathan, thank you so much for writing. And clearly we all had a lot to say about that. Thanks for sending in your chit chat.

Chapter 7: How does the episode address themes of loyalty and relationships?

660.333 - 667.222 Jenna Fischer

Meanwhile, Esmeralda and Ken team up to solve a mutual problem. I'll leave it at that.

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667.603 - 688.318 Angela Kinsey

Mm-hmm. Well, we reached out to Director Jennifer Salata, and she sent us in some great tidbits. We're going to share them throughout. You guys all know that have been listening. Jen is part of our office family for many years, and it was so great to hear her voice. Yes. We're going to start with what I'm calling a fakey conference room meeting. Mm-hmm. So Marv and his team, they're there.

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688.378 - 711.467 Angela Kinsey

They're in the big bullpen and they're watching. And Ned is in the conference room with his crew. And he's like, OK, he's watching us. He's watching us like jump up and down. High five. Clap. Oh, my gosh. Point. Yes. And they're just acting like they're having this really great, awesome brainstorming meeting for ideas for the paper. And Nicole says, why don't we just have a real meeting?

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711.447 - 718.695 Angela Kinsey

Adam thinks it's the most fun meeting they've ever had. Yeah. But it worked. Marv is watching them from across the room and goes, wow, impressive.

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719.015 - 735.132 Jenna Fischer

You know what this reminded me of? What? The scene from Boys and Girls when Jan and all the ladies are in the conference room and Michael literally gathers all the men in the bullpen and he's like, okay, now everybody clap. Everybody clap. Laughing, laughing. The difference is that Jan was not buying it at all.

735.433 - 735.593 Angela Kinsey

No.

735.893 - 747.764 Jenna Fischer

Marv was convinced. Jan, not so much. Not so much. Well, now Ned is going to leave the conference room. He's going to welcome Marv. He's like, oh, I didn't even know you were there. And he kind of sucks up to him a little bit.

Chapter 8: What are the fan reactions to the episode's cringe moments?

748.044 - 761.181 Jenna Fischer

He does. And I want to shout out Alan Havey, who plays Marv. He's excellent in this episode. Jen actually sent us in an audio clip about working with him. So I think we should hear it.

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762.595 - 777.811 Jen Salata

I directed episode 107 of the paper. And I got to work with Alan Havey, who played Marv, who was Ned's boss. And he was brilliant. And I loved working with him. And I thought that I just recognized him from TV, maybe from Mad Men or from movies that he's done.

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778.232 - 802.787 Jen Salata

And it wasn't until much later, like embarrassingly later, that I realized, oh my god, I directed him on The Office on the episode called Promos. ninth season of The Office. He played Esther's dad and he was trying to like swindle Dwight in some tractor deal. And he was also fantastic in that. Two very different roles, but I did not realize that I had worked with him before.

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802.987 - 807.655 Jen Salata

And he was just such a delight in the character of Marv and dealing with Ned and his daddy issues.

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808.192 - 819.799 Jenna Fischer

You know, it's so funny, Angela, the first time I saw him on the paper, I had forgotten that he played Esther's dad as well. I just remembered him from Mad Men. But he's so different.

819.939 - 842.736 Angela Kinsey

He's so different. And we both had that moment of like, oh, crap. That was, oh my God. Yes. But, you know, in that episode, he has like a baseball hat on. He's a little unshaven. Totally different. But what a great actor. Listen, we're going to get to it about Ned's daddy issues. But there is something about Alan and the way he portrays Marv that I'm like, it's like my dad.

842.756 - 844.358 Angela Kinsey

I'd like to spend an afternoon with him.

844.895 - 851.617 Jenna Fischer

He does. I mean, he's perfect casting. In this scene, Ned is basically just kissing up to Marv.

852.36 - 856.373 Angela Kinsey

Ken is annoyed by it, but then Ken joins in on kissing up to Marv. Yes.

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