A golden age of software engineering with Russell Kaplan, Founding President of Cognition
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Who is Russell Kaplan and what experiences shaped his view on AI‑driven software engineering?
That's been a really important principle for us is being willing to just rethink everything from first principles. The moment we make a new discovery or some external AI system gets better or something new becomes possible. Because the right form factor for AI software engineering, it's a function of, you know, the edge of what's possible from an intelligence perspective.
Welcome to Orbit, the HG podcast series, where we talk to leaders of technology businesses and hear how they've built some of the most successful software companies across the world. I'm Jason Richards, head of Portfolio Technology at HG, and I'm delighted today to be joined by Russell Kaplan, founding president of Cognition. We'll hear more shortly, but Cognition's Deving Product is an AI software engineer. is capable of completing programming tasks and collaborating with human developers. Cognition is well known to us here at HG. We have over 20 portfolio companies currently engaged with cognition leveraging Devin. Russell's fresh off the stage from his high-impact keynote here at HG's Digital Forum.
Russell, thanks for being here. Really appreciate it. Thanks so much for having me. Before we sort of get started and and sort of talk about cognition, a number of our our listeners may not be familiar with yourself and your background. So I wondered if you could perhaps introduce yourself for a second.
Yeah, absolutely. I'm from New York originally. I grew up loving programming as a little kid and got really excited about AI in high school. I was taking all these classes on Udacity, sort of like an online courses website. And they had a prize for if you took the most online classes and recruited the most number of people to do it, you could win a trip to California, to Silicon Valley, and get a ride in what was then called the Google self-driving car. car project. And so I took a lot of classes and I recruited a lot of people to take a lot of classes and I was lucky to basically get this trip and I got to visit Stanford and go to the Bay Area and take a ride in the Google self-driving car. And I remember it at that time, you know, it was just doing loops around Google's campus.
And it like almost worked perfectly until it slammed on the brakes when a a low hanging tree branch was in the way. So I at that moment I was like, okay, this AI thing seems really cool. I want I want work on this. So I ended up going to Stanford. I was in the vision lab there. I was a researcher advised by Fei Fe Lee, working on technography and other kind of computer vision techniques. I was trying to decide should I go do a PhD or go into industry. So I figured, all right, I'll do the master's program and then I'll also go work in like applied machine learning and and see which is more fun. And I went to Tesla on the autopilot team and I had much more fun at that than writing research papers. So I went to Tesla full time I was working
on the vision neural network. So specifically I did a lot of our multitask learning, uh our large scale distributed training infrastructure and working on kind of the intersection of sort of applied ML and systems there. And then yeah, from there I ended up leaving I started a company doing real-time computer vision that ended up getting acquired by Scale AI, where I led the machine learning organization. And about a year ago, uh left to to start working on cognition. And it's been a really exciting journey since then.
Fantastic. I mean some great experiences during that time. And so any sort of pivotal moments that laid the foundations for what you're doing at cognition now that you sort of reflect on and think that's been really key for the mission, what we want to achieve and how we're going to take ourselves forward.
Yeah. So for me, one of the reasons I joined Cognition and started working on this problem was previously working at scale was a really good vantage point into how the AI industry is uh evolving. And for those who don't know, scale is, you know, it's a data for AI company. So they do labeling for a lot of the foundation model labs to make models better in post-training.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
Who is Russell Kaplan and what experiences shaped his view on AI‑driven software engineering?
0:01–5:00
2
Why does Russell believe coding is the first AI domain that can improve through self‑play?
5:00–10:25
3
How did Russell’s time at Tesla, Scale AI, and early hackathons influence his leadership philosophy?
10:25–14:50
4
What does “talent is everything” mean for building small, high‑impact engineering teams?
14:50–19:22
5
How does Cognition’s AI engineer Devin work—from task delegation to autonomous pull‑requests?
19:22–24:01
6
Why does Russell say software will become “good by default” and how will customer expectations change?
24:01–30:12
7
What ROI and productivity gains are companies seeing by using AI agents like Devin?
30:12–34:35
8
What practical advice does Russell give to CEOs, CTOs, and engineers about adopting AI in software development?
34:35–39:47
Speakers
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