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Episode 116: Auntie Gloria

Mon, 24 Mar 2025

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After the birth of their first daughter, Francis, Grace and her husband find their dream home. The 300 year-old house sits on land that’s been inhabited for thousands of years and soon after moving in, things get weird. Shortly after moving in, strange occurrences began to occur and grow in intensity—ghostly visitations in the night, unsettling growling noises, and, most disturbingly, her daughter’s conversations with the spirit of a former resident known as Auntie Gloria. Check out our Merch Follow us on: Instagram, TikTok, Twitter For business inquiries contact: [email protected] If you have experienced something paranormal or unexplained, email us your story at [email protected] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What is the story of Grace's haunted house?

54.582 - 83.191 Jack Wagner

Look, it takes quite a long time to make some of these episodes. It's just the way it is. The story comes from a woman named Grace, and it all began when she bought her dream home in Connecticut, a very, very old house with a lot of history. Shortly after moving in, she began uncovering fascinating details about its past, and as you might expect, some very unusual things started happening to her.

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83.931 - 110.583 Jack Wagner

I think most people would have been scared off by this type of stuff, but Grace is a very curious person and seems to have always been motivated to look for answers, even when the question was very frightening. And to me, Grace's curiosity is what makes this story so interesting. This episode is essentially the story of Grace, her family, and the many ongoing mysteries of this house.

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111.104 - 128.597 Jack Wagner

This is episode 116. The title is Antigloria, and you're listening to Otherworld. Otherworld Hello? Is this Bobby? Yes, it is. At its core, the science you can't argue with.

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128.778 - 131.781 Theresa

I'm worried about all the science. Up in the sky.

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133.383 - 137.548 Jake Brennan

It's almost frustrating that it's happening. I'm going to die. If limbs were just like wrong.

138.449 - 141.213 Unknown Speaker 2

Everybody moves back into the light, even if it takes them a minute.

164.56 - 189.237 Grace

My name is Grace. I'm 35 years old. I live in Eastern Connecticut, like kind of near where Mystic Pizza takes place, that classic Julia Roberts movie. I'm a wedding planner and event designer. And the story started when I moved back to Connecticut in 2018. I had been living in California

Chapter 2: How did Grace find her dream home?

194.634 - 214.296 Grace

And when I got pregnant with my daughter, Frances, we moved to New Haven and started looking for houses in Connecticut. I grew up here in Eastern Connecticut, so we were looking all over. Around November of 2019, Frances had been born at that point. She was probably about eight months old.

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215.437 - 238.294 Grace

I went to an astrologist named Michael, who I'd gone to several times before, because I wanted to have Frances' birth chart read. So I have Frances' chart read, and he said a bunch of really interesting stuff. It was really cool, but what he said about Frances that I thought was interesting and that stayed with me is that he said she was surrounded by spirits.

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240.015 - 259.389 Grace

A few weeks later, I'm looking at houses. I had driven like an hour from New Haven to my hometown and I was looking at houses around like Mystic and I went to a house in Mystic and it was a total bust. Like it was just a dump and I was like, okay, this was kind of a waste of an hour drive. Let me see if there's anything else nearby to go check out.

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260.43 - 281.572 Grace

So I got on Zillow, I found a spot, and it was on this road that was a mile from where I grew up, but I didn't even know that this road existed. And the house was, like, really cool. It was a black house, salt box on an acre of land right on the river. So I was like, all right, let me go check it out. So I was with Francis, Francis and I went to the house.

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281.733 - 308.69 Grace

And when we walked into the house, it was like a flip just switch. Like it was a no brainer that we were going to buy this house. We put an offer then in that day. And, um, we were like on our way to closing in December. So at the closing, you know, the negotiations with the homeowners, I think it was probably pretty typical for the way that negotiations go.

308.75 - 324.563 Grace

Like, it wasn't—like, we weren't warm and fuzzy. Misha, the homeowner, she's one of my best friends now. But at the time, like, we didn't even want to look at each other at the closing because we had argued about a bunch of stuff with the house. So anyways, at the closing, we signed all the paperwork. We're sitting there, and—

326.621 - 350.236 Grace

Misha said, hey, just a heads up, like, everything's out of the house, but when you go down to the basement, you're going to see that there are like five or six boxes down there, and those have to stay with the house. They belong to the house. So if you ever leave, you need to leave those there. And I was like, okay, well, what are they?

351.494 - 377.972 Grace

And she ended up telling me that in 1998, when the house was rebuilt, right, because the house is from 1725, but it had a new foundation poured in 1998. And whenever construction is happening on like a potentially archaeologically significant piece of property, you're supposed to let the state know. I learned all of this since then, obviously.

378.911 - 400.745 Grace

So the homeowner at that time had let the state know, I'm putting an addition on and I'm doing a new foundation. Do you want to come and conduct an archeological dig? So they did. UConn and the Connecticut State Archeologists, like the State Historical Society, they came and conducted a dig on the property.

Chapter 3: What unusual events occurred after moving in?

548.348 - 550.249 Jack Wagner

What did your husband think of all this?

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551.19 - 576.329 Grace

We thought it was fun at that point. We were like, this is cool. Like, this is cool. This is like a fun, it's like, like I said, it's like a party trick. He is eternally skeptical about, But I think like even things will happen now. And he'll say to me like, if it doesn't happen to me, I don't believe it. So at that point, we had already signed the paperwork.

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577.23 - 600.144 Grace

So it was not even like we had an opportunity if we were like, wait, this is sort of like could have changed our offer on the house. We didn't even have that opportunity because everything had already been signed. So it wasn't like we were mad about it. You know, we still loved the house. We still do love the house. But we basically took the keys and we left. That was it.

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605.086 - 629.052 Grace

We get to the house, like one of the first things we do, Mark actually was traveling. I'm remembering now he was traveling for work a lot at that time. So I think I actually moved into the house without him initially. Francis and I were in the house. One of the first things that I did was I pulled all the boxes out of the basement and I brought them upstairs. and started to look through them.

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629.652 - 667.51 Grace

They were meticulously organized. So there was an inventory list with codes for everything, including the GPS location, exactly where on the property everything was found. And inside, man, there's so much cool stuff. A lot of it is really old, like, Pequot artifacts. Like, arrowheads, obviously, but also pottery and old bits of clothing.

668.09 - 700.62 Grace

And then through colonial times, so, like, lots of stoneware, painted ceramics, like, children's shoes. And then a lot of animal, or, I mean, I think animal, some of it is unknown, but bone fragments, like, there's... horse jaws and old pipes and like bone pipes. So like a lot of really cool and pretty creepy stuff, a lot of bones down there. I kind of love creepy stuff.

701.04 - 725.364 Grace

And again, like at that time it was just entertainment for me. So I was like, this is weird, but I also like, I love history. And I was, it really got me super interested in like the history of the property and who had lived here before, because there was so much. And even like, you know, my first month living here, forgot to mention this, but like there's gardens all over the property.

726.567 - 747.833 Grace

I'm looking at them right now. There's like five stone garden beds. There's a raised garden. There's all this hardscaping with perennial flowers. And the first month I was here, I would find arrowheads like every other week, like just on top of the dirt, like as if somebody had placed it there. Just like beautiful stuff, old milk bottles and old ceramics. Like there's just stuff everywhere.

748.414 - 776.93 Grace

So I just got really, really interested in the history of the property and who had been here before me, because it obviously had been inhabited for a really, really long time. So like I said, Mark had been traveling a lot at that time. And around February, so like two or three months later, was when it stopped being fun. At this time, my bedroom was upstairs.

Chapter 4: Who is Auntie Gloria?

2063.809 - 2066.151 Grace

Or even that you would paint a house.

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2066.532 - 2066.852 Jack Wagner

Yeah.

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2067.052 - 2070.735 Grace

Like a two-year-old just doesn't think about the world that way.

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2071.756 - 2073.657 Jack Wagner

Or that it would have been a different color in the past.

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2074.538 - 2100.68 Grace

Right. Right. So this was like, I think I recorded this one and sent it to you. But after we chatted, you know, because she's really sheepish about it now. Like she clams up when you ask her about it. But at one point we were making cookies and I was, I try to keep it super casual with her, you know, like no big deal. It's just like, you know, see what comes out.

2100.7 - 2131.957 Grace

Try not to put too much pressure on her because like I said, she clams up. So she did end up telling me, like, Auntie Gloria was telling her about her aunts, her mean aunts. I probed a little bit and just said, like, well, why are her aunts mean? She said that her aunts do bad things to children. And she said they do bad things with belts to children, which is, like, really dark, I know.

2133.157 - 2159.803 Grace

I'm not super mom, but like my child is not exposed to anything like that, like ever. So to even know that that's a thing that happens is, I just, I don't, maybe I'm naive, but like I just don't see how a two or three-year-old could make that kind of a connection. Like how they could, she could say that spontaneously. I don't know.

2164.008 - 2165.148 Unknown Speaker 4

Tell me, what were the stories?

2168.309 - 2169.509 Unknown Speaker 2

About aunts.

Chapter 5: What did Frances experience with Auntie Gloria?

2208.564 - 2213.186 Unknown Speaker 2

Yes. When I was sleeping in my room.

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2214.026 - 2215.367 Unknown Speaker 4

You were sleeping in your room?

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2218.688 - 2222.29 Unknown Speaker 2

Was she saying nice things? Mean things.

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2222.69 - 2223.19 Unknown Speaker 4

Like what?

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2225.039 - 2232.322 Unknown Speaker 2

I told you she does everything about her mean aunt. They would hurt kids.

2232.803 - 2238.265 Unknown Speaker 4

What do you mean they would hurt kids? How would they hurt kids?

2238.845 - 2242.227 Unknown Speaker 2

Belt. What? Mean belt.

2243.367 - 2243.847 Unknown Speaker 4

A belt?

2244.227 - 2248.989 Unknown Speaker 2

Yeah, a mean belt. And a lot of times it bites children. Oh.

Chapter 6: How did the haunting affect Grace's family?

3653.67 - 3678.279 Grace

He was like not from a distance, like not yelling far away, not inside, like somebody right in my ear. And then they said, Francis? Francis? And he literally was like, I'm not talking about this anymore. Like, once I was like, oh, my God. He was like, done. Conversation over. I don't want to think about it. And I was like, okay. But my son and my daughter overheard him.

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3679.18 - 3694.724 Grace

And they were like, oh, the voice that says my name? Like, the voice in the tree? Yeah. And I was like, what? And they were like, oh, we hear that all the time outside. It was like very nonchalant, them saying like, yeah, that's normal for us.

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3695.925 - 3698.607 Jack Wagner

Wow. That's really terrifying.

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3699.067 - 3699.888 Grace

Yeah, crazy.

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3701.529 - 3713.96 Jack Wagner

Oh, well, I guess we have to end this on a bit of a question mark. There's a lot of question marks with this whole story, Grace, but I guess this is ongoing.

3714.892 - 3732.525 Grace

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's the weird thing is that like, there's not like a nice clean narrative structure. I feel like to these things most of the time. And there's not like, like some clear, succinct meaning to derive from it.

3733.486 - 3743.213 Jack Wagner

Well, maybe one day you'll be back for another episode. But for your sake, I hope that is not the case. Hopefully nothing scary happens for a while.

3744.261 - 3744.882 Grace

Yeah, hopefully.

3744.902 - 3749.47 Jack Wagner

You get to have peace in your home. Thanks, Jack. Keep me posted on if anything changes.

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