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OverDrive - January 26, 2026 - Hour 1 - Mark Masters

26 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 7.503 Bryan Hayes

This hour of Overdrive is powered by FanDuel. FanDuel, bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score.

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8.244 - 23.887 Jeff O'Neill

Alright, here we go, Overdrive off and running, TSN 1050 on the TSN app, your home smart speaker, up on TSN, up on YouTube Live, on TSN's YouTube channel. Brian Hasey, O-Dog, Jeff O'Neill, Jamie Noodles, McLennan.

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23.907 - 24.788 Jamie McLennan

What's going on?

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24.889 - 31.917 Unknown

What's going on? If I get frustrated today, I might give you guys the finger.

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31.957 - 37.324 Jamie McLennan

We're four seconds in and we're going there.

Chapter 2: What are the Maple Leafs' current struggles and their impact on team identity?

38.165 - 47.436 Unknown

I just wanted to let you know. I might be smiling, but what it means is I'm just frustrated and I'm going to give you the finger.

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47.72 - 55.291 Jeff O'Neill

I can't wait to hear what you guys have to say. I love it. That's the explanation from Willie. I'm just frustrated. He looked pretty happy up there. He looked like he was having a great time.

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55.311 - 61.801 Unknown

That's what I don't understand. Just come out and say, I was trying to be funny, and it was stupid. Right. That's because that's what it was.

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61.861 - 62.141 Jeff O'Neill

Yeah, exactly.

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62.161 - 78.03 Unknown

Because I could see myself doing something dumb like that. That's 18-year-old stuff, giving the camera the finger. just come out and say i did something stupid yeah i apologize to the camera guy sorry to like sorry like just it was stupid

78.247 - 98.793 Jamie McLennan

I laughed out loud because I think, again, Hayes, you can speak to the masses, but I kind of laughed out loud watching it going, that's not going to go over well, especially because of the way they're playing. That's the difference. If they were in their 8-0-2 run, him handing out the bird, we're laughing about this.

98.893 - 100.896 Jeff O'Neill

Parading. Parading around the city.

100.876 - 110.505 Jamie McLennan

But this one, was it Gord and MJ that were talking? And Gord kind of was like, ah, ah. Because I was calling a game, so I didn't get it firsthand.

110.565 - 115.01 Unknown

Well, what's he apologizing to Leafs Nation for? I don't get it.

Chapter 3: How did Auston Matthews respond to criticism regarding his leadership?

177.585 - 182.892 Jeff O'Neill

That's what it was. He was Billy Madison in the press box. That's exactly what he was.

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182.872 - 197.895 Jamie McLennan

Remember the first day he went back to school, he drove up in the Trans Am with the music player and he got out? I thought it was funny. I even went a step further. I thought his hands looked tiny. They looked like carny hands. I don't know why his finger looked like an inch long.

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198.255 - 199.918 Jeff O'Neill

Uh-oh, can he pick it?

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199.898 - 208.663 Jamie McLennan

I was like, I don't know, you break it down for me. That's the first thing I thought. I was like, oh, my God, like he's got carny hands.

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208.683 - 215.241 Jeff O'Neill

I didn't notice that, Noodles. Now it's blurred out, so I guess we can't really show it.

215.221 - 226.901 Jamie McLennan

I didn't take it that seriously. I don't know who is, but you're right. It's a mistake and move on. He's a great player. He's probably pissed that he's not playing. No, that's not it.

226.981 - 229.666 Unknown

It's not that he's frustrated. He's not frustrated.

229.686 - 230.628 Jeff O'Neill

He was being goofy.

230.788 - 240.87 Unknown

Yes, this guy doesn't get pissed off. This guy sat up there a couple weeks ago. In a tank top. Really?

Chapter 4: What was the reaction to William Nylander's controversial gesture?

241.07 - 243.577 Jeff O'Neill

Billy Madison was in a tank top.

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243.797 - 272.363 Unknown

He was in a tank top up there. And this is so far off the list of things, but I am so tired league-wide. of watching guys go in the NHL arenas without a suit on. I know it's like 2026. I didn't wear a full suit, full admission on the panel. I wore a mock neck, but it's like, guys, can we not? The hats, the ball caps, and the sweatsuits, it's like... It doesn't even seem real to me.

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272.443 - 279.894 Unknown

I cannot stand it. I hate it. It's a new era. Little kids still wear a shirt and tie to the rink for crying out loud.

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280.014 - 289.908 Jeff O'Neill

They do, which is funny. I remember doing that as a kid. Everyone had a different viewpoint 30 years ago. It's like, well, this is stupid. It's a 10-year-old kid. Let them have fun.

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290.209 - 309.28 Unknown

And I get it. You don't have to wear it on the plane for a four-hour flight. You don't got to wear it certain places. I just think there's something about going to the game in a suit. It's the best league in the world. Like, come on. And I'm so glad that guys like Sid and Makar and McKinnon, they wear a suit to the game still.

311.404 - 324.761 Jeff O'Neill

Generally, the bar that we use, which is an extreme example because the guy is basically perfect. But when in doubt, you can ask that question, would Sid do that? Would Sid give the middle finger to the camera?

324.961 - 337.251 Unknown

Like there's people that wear bracelets that say, WWJD, what would Jesus do? They wear those bracelets. In hockey, it should be, what would Sid do?

337.471 - 353.428 Jeff O'Neill

What would Sid do? And, you know, Sid wouldn't do that. You know, it's a silly play, and it's at the wrong time, like you pointed out, Noodles, because – You know, the fans, for the most part, are just not in the mood for anything from the Leafs. That's what it is.

Chapter 5: What are the keys to improving the Maple Leafs' performance?

353.589 - 365.807 Jamie McLennan

Because a week ago, we're having a laugh about it and that. But then, you know, your critical home stand and you're not getting the points you want. People are not wanting to see the Tom Poolery.

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366.067 - 383.279 Jeff O'Neill

Right. And I think that's, you know, what this week is unfortunately likely going to be remembered for. You know, I thought, like, I don't believe anyone's labeled anything like gate related. Is it middle finger gate? You know, can we own that? Maybe that's our trademark. I think we could own that because as far as I know, no one else has tried to go there.

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384.041 - 403.468 Jeff O'Neill

But I look at the way the last few days have played out. And they still have 30 games. Before I even go on this rant, I'm going to point out, I don't think they should make any drastic decisions before the Olympic break. I've said that countless times, and I will stick to that. They play tomorrow, then four-game road trip. Then you're going to have to figure out.

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404.189 - 429.233 Jeff O'Neill

And there could be some really difficult conversations that need to be had within that organization. If they go... 0 for 5, clearly. 1 and 4, I think. Maybe 2 and 3, you're done. But again, it's not today. It's not tomorrow. You're a week away from making that call. But I thought there were a few things that stood out over the weekend that makes it feel as if there's just no one

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430.006 - 450.934 Jeff O'Neill

with their finger on the polls like it like who's running the organization it just feels kinda like a rudderless ship a little bit the stole our stuff where it's like but he just didn't want to start the miners so we started him against vegas you know how does it that he stores make that decision if you feel like it's in the best interest of your brad tree living

451.015 - 457.622 Jeff O'Neill

Craig Berube, I don't know, Keith Pelley. You say you're not just stepping in and playing against a team.

457.742 - 460.064 Unknown

Can't you say just get your ass to the minors?

460.084 - 481.808 Jeff O'Neill

Obviously they can do that. Now maybe there's a CBA issue and if the player doesn't want to, but at some point someone's got to step up and be the adult here and say this is for the best interest of you and the team. I thought the Matthews running from the media stuff, Embarrassing. Horrible look for a lot of different reasons. We'll get into it.

Chapter 6: How did the Seahawks and Patriots advance to the Super Bowl?

482.149 - 497.914 Jeff O'Neill

And then the Willie stuff yesterday. And then on top of it, which is actually being buried below all this, is they got pumped twice. They got pumped by Vegas and pumped by Colorado, and now they've lost four in a row. So it feels...

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498.94 - 526.112 Jeff O'Neill

gate worthy you know it feels like a few days where it's like this is a chapter in the book and it's like maybe it's starting to erode and if it is eroding and if it is going officially in the wrong direction and fast this is a weekend and maybe this is a homestand that will likely be the kind of signature moment of that it certainly seems like they kind of shoveled half a pile of dirt on their head

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526.649 - 548.714 Unknown

And if they get pumped tomorrow night and they get pumped on that road trip, they can just jump in the hole and it might be over. Right. Like, for them to lose tomorrow night, I think it's, I don't know, it's very significant. I found it interesting that, I mean, you see something on Twitter report, like that Craig Berube met with the leadership group.

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549.755 - 564.368 Unknown

Like, if you need to meet with a leadership group before tomorrow's game, And I get sometimes you just want to pull guys aside and say, hey, make sure everyone's... But the idea of even doing that, knowing the circumstances of it, like...

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564.449 - 576.181 Jeff O'Neill

It feels against where he would think to go with it, too, wouldn't it? The way Berube approaches things is generally, hey, it's the NHL. They've got to figure it out. He's a lifer in the NHL. Craig's been in the NHL for 40 years.

576.962 - 590.836 Jeff O'Neill

This feels like a counterintuitive move for him to have to collect the guys and say, hey, maybe we need to have a meeting because I think his nature would be, well, they're pros and adults. Of course they're going to act like it.

591.237 - 591.537 Jamie McLennan

Yep.

591.517 - 596.803 Jeff O'Neill

But this might suggest that he can't truly rely on that. And quite frankly, I can't blame him.

596.823 - 618.83 Jamie McLennan

He's seeing something, Brian. That's probably what you're saying. He's seeing something that he's got to address or at least bring back to center. If they're on a road and they're in a ditch a little bit, how do you get it back on the road? Well, have a meeting with your group. And listen, it's been a bad week. The week before, the two weeks before were not bad. So what team are you?

Chapter 7: What makes Connor McDavid's performance exceptional this season?

744.806 - 767.235 Jeff O'Neill

It's that he didn't go out, and do you know who did go out? John Tavares won out. Exactly. The guy who had the C on his jersey, and they ripped it off his chest to give it to him. So basically, Austin said, I'm not dealing with that. John, you go. You go deal with that. I'm not doing it. And Scott Lawton, who's been here a year and played nine minutes. Scott's trying. I like Lawton a lot.

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767.275 - 786.036 Jeff O'Neill

What the hell is he going to say? He didn't play with him. He played with Marner for 15 games. He doesn't know. He doesn't know the history and all that kind of stuff. He's been in Philly his whole career. And that's the point. The messaging within the room is, I'm not doing it. You guys go do it. It's like, you're the captain, dude. You're the guy.

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786.397 - 794.437 Jeff O'Neill

Like, you've got to jump on a grenade sometimes, even though it sucks. You have to. Like, I know that, and I didn't play in the league. You guys have been telling me that for 15 years.

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794.457 - 813.338 Unknown

If you're going to take the pictures after breaking Sundin's record and all that, it's like you just got to do it on a day-to-day. I had to look at – I looked at Matt Sundin every day, every day. And I get it sucks sometimes. Yeah, sometimes it's like – Do I really have to speak for these bunch of losers when the team lays an egg or whatever?

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813.819 - 822.06 Unknown

But if you don't understand that and you don't want to accept the responsibility of that, then why did you take the C? Like, it's a part of the gig. Right.

822.741 - 826.15 Jeff O'Neill

Give it back to the guy who went out. Give it back to him if you want.

826.13 - 837.241 Jamie McLennan

Brian, you're right. That night, watching it, that's the first thing I noticed is Tavares is talking. I was like, okay. To me, it's an opportunity on a lot of different levels.

Chapter 8: What insights does Mark Masters provide about the Maple Leafs' situation?

837.922 - 860.484 Jamie McLennan

You win games, you lose games. You're not going to have a perfect game every night. Austin Matthews could have spoke that morning, or he could have spoke after the game and just said, we didn't have our stuff. It would have been asked about Mitch. I think it was also an opportunity. And given how things – it wasn't a great PR move, what happened with Masters and how you table or whatever.

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860.964 - 876.58 Jamie McLennan

But just come out and talk the other night and just say, can't wait to play against him. He's not with the organization anymore. We're going to try and beat him. And then after the game, he didn't beat him. You know what? Didn't work our way, but we wish Mitch all the best. But we're trying to make the playoffs here. Like, to me, it's a matter of fact.

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877.081 - 898.898 Jamie McLennan

And the messaging is, like you just said, oh – When it's all roses and all that front and center. But when it's not, it's like you still have to go out there and at least own your team. And this is Austin Matthews' team. He's the face of the franchise. And to me, I don't know if he didn't want to do it or if he was upset about losing all that type of stuff. But at the end of the day...

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898.878 - 905.787 Jamie McLennan

Go out and talk for five minutes and just say, listen, emotional night, didn't have it tonight. We'll chat on Saturday.

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906.108 - 914.298 Unknown

Let's not get distracted by something other here. The fact of the matter is they're in big-time trouble.

914.599 - 915.54 Jamie McLennan

They didn't play well.

915.56 - 926.775 Unknown

You can talk about the finger and Austin Matthews talking to the media. If they get pumped tomorrow, it just will put them in a bad vibe going out west. And then if it's not good out there, it's pretty much game over.

926.755 - 948.536 Jeff O'Neill

But it all ties together, I guess, is where we're kind of going with this. People are wondering, is this the end of an era? What happens? And again, they're not an awful team. Noodles, you asked what are they. They're a middle-of-the-pack team. Now, in the division they're in, that's not going to be enough, unfortunately. If they were in the Pacific, it might be third place. Who knows?

949.016 - 965.196 Jeff O'Neill

But it's not. They're not an awful team. Let's clarify that. They're dealing with injuries. They're not playing well at this homestand. 100%. And as I said right off the bat, I'm not doing anything drastic between now and the end of this trip. Figure it out once you get there. But time is ticking.

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