From Ronaldo to D-Wade: Athlete Statues, Reviewed by Pulitzer-Winning Art Critic Jerry Saltz
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Welcome to Pablo Torre Finds Out. I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is.
That is an absolute sh** work of art because it looks like a little mini statue on an idiotic store-bought trophy. It's crap.
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With the Galaxy Watch 7 or the Galaxy Ring and the Samsung Health app.
I only know how to use Instagram because a student signed me up and I lost my password. But as long as I can stay logged in, I love it. I don't know how to do anything, though. Like if I had to post this, I'm unable to do it.
Wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Are we rolling, Chris? You want all of this. I unfortunately... Okay. We'll start again when you're ready. No, we've started. Okay. We've started, if that's okay with you. Oh. The thing that I didn't realize until just a second ago when you walked in here is that you don't know your own password to your Instagram account? Yeah. Do you know yours? I do. What is it? Well, we're going to... But is it like... I would tell you, but it's my password to everything and it is very hackable.
And it's like an old address or your... It's a thing that's very dear to me.
I'm like talking to a mentalist, I feel like.
Okay. It's very dear to me. It's a childhood resonance. Got it. Got it. I know what it is. It's okay.
Yeah. Well, now I'm very insecure about what I project. For people who don't know Jerry Sells, by the way, thank you so much for being here.
It's a pleasure. I love, I've heard of you. I was thrilled to come here, but I've never listened because I don't.
Yeah, well, this is the ideal audience for me for this specific episode, I think. Because I know of you as, of course, the guy who won the Pulitzer Prize for Criticism in 2018. Right. I am a magazine nerd, a journalism nerd. Practitioner, but also acolyte in an era where that's intimidating.
Yeah, we're the last of our kind. All these magazines, The New Yorker, New York. No one knows what we are. I don't know what we do. But what we do, we do better than everybody else until there's no more need for it. And then we'll just go away.
Yeah, how long away are we from that?
It's been a good run. That's all I'll say. It's been a great run. Yeah, it's like the New York Jets, you know. They have to completely rethink everything. We hate them and screw them. Yeah, yeah. Are you a sports fan? I am a big football fan and a baseball fan. I'm a Yankee fan and the Jets and Giants. And that's it. And I'm a huge F1 nerd since the TV show and the pre-pandemic and all of that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But wait a minute. So Yankees-wise, I am here to report that I was at Game 5 of the World Series. Wow. And that felt like a grotesque performance art at a certain point. Yeah. The fifth inning, just the worst inning in baseball history, arguably just so many self-inflicted wounds.
Yeah. I don't know what to say. I'm a fair weather fan. I used to go, oh, we're boring your audience. Let's move on. Yeah.
I want to get to the idea that you as an authority on art and art criticism are also somebody who is online. The reason I started with your password is because you're also somebody with a giant, a legitimately... thriving community around your online presence. How do you describe your relationship with social media?
Follow me at Jerry Salts. I did this by accident. A student signed me up for it, gave me the password, which I don't even know. I accidentally cannot get on the Twitter or the Facebook. No, I can't get on Facebook. You were banned from Facebook at one point. Right. I had over a half million followers. I have like six or seven hundred thousand now. But who's counting? But I am because it's all I have.
The Pulitzer Prize for criticism and about, you know, three quarters of a million people.
For me, my second self. is my first self. And what I mean by that is my life is so boring and so limited. I see 25 or 30 shows a week, painting shows, sculpture shows at museums, galleries, alternative spaces in New York. And then I go home and I become terrified that I have to write about these.
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