He Finds Music Stars. Now He's Helping Us Save the Life of a Wrongfully Convicted Man
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Welcome to Pablo Torre Finds Out. I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is.
If you do get picked up and you're suspected of a crime, just say your name, your address, and then say the following words, I want a lawyer, and then shut the f*** up. Right after this ad.
I have lots of people on this show who have absurd resumes. You might be a gold medalist in this category.
Wow, I'm rarely speechless, but that introduction has left me at a loss for words.
Jason Flom, thank you for being here, by the way. Of course. I'm thrilled to be here, actually. I'm thrilled to have you hopefully help me understand what it is that you do in your current act. But act one, can we just start there with music? Yeah, of course. You're the guy who personally discovered and or signed, I mean, how should we do the list? Do you want to give me the chronology here?
Yeah, if you want to do it in chronological order, it depends how old your listeners are, but it goes back to, wow, the 80s. The first artist I ever signed was a band called Zebra. Big points to anyone who remembers them.
Twisted Sister, Skid Row, Stone Temple Pilots, White Lion, Jewel. We're going way back. I'm into Memory Machine, Tori Amos. Then I ended up, and I'm leaving some out, of course, just because Memory, whatever, Escape Club. That was a funny one. Wild, Wild West. Then I started my own company, which was Lava Records. And Lava Records, which was a division of Atlantic at the time, because I started at Atlantic. And Lava had a great run with Matchbox 20.
I feel like something's going on. And I'm a little bit.
and Kid Rock and Trans-Siberian Orchestra and Simple Plan and The Coors and so many different acts, Porcupine Tree, et cetera, et cetera, and Edwin McCain.
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And then ultimately, I ended up running Atlantic Records for a little while. I signed Paramore back then. And then we move on to Virgin Records. I left Atlantic and went to Virgin, where I was the 44-year-old Virgin. And then during that time, Virgin and Capitol was Katy Perry.
As for you, caught my attention
and a bunch of other acts, 30 Seconds to Mars, and then ultimately left there to join the number one company in the music business. Republic Records, still number one to this day, and I've been with them ever since and have signed, in the partnership with Republic, acts like Jessie J and Lorde and Greta Van Fleet and many others. We have one called The Warning that's blowing up right now.
How did Jason Flom transition from music executive to advocate for the wrongfully convicted?
is really exciting. So yeah, so it's been, the music business has been very good to me. I left out a lot of names. If you're listening and you're one of those names, forgive me. My memory is not what it used to be. I've been very, very, very lucky in the music industry. Let's say that.
You have a sense of taste and a skill, clearly, that I want to understand. Like, why are you good at this? But before we get to that, I do need to acknowledge that the artist that has the most current day present resonance is Kid Rock. And that is the sound of a man who knows where I'm going with this. Yeah. I don't even know what to say.
I mean, it's... He name-checked you in a song. The seminal album, Devil Without a Cause, he name-checked me in the song, I Got One For Ya, where he says, hey, Flom, you want to hit money? Ha, ha, ha. It was a very, very difficult process trying to break him because he didn't fit into any sort of real established box. But it was fun for that reason. And we knocked it out of the park. You know, now... Now, I don't know. I don't know what to say.
I need you to imagine that you're me for a second. And it's last December, and you're at this upscale holiday party in New York, and you randomly get introduced to this guy you've never met before who's wearing a hoodie and glasses, and he kind of looks like John Turturro, and he kind of sounds like Ray Romano. And the first thing this guy starts telling you about is his former life and obsession with sports.
Having been to rehab and then AA, I ended up in GA as well. Gamblers Anonymous makes Alcoholics Anonymous look like a picnic in the park with, you know, the glee club.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–3:17
2
How did Jason Flom transition from music executive to advocate for the wrongfully convicted?
3:17–7:59
3
What is the story behind Charles Flores' wrongful conviction?
7:59–11:45
4
How does the legal system fail individuals like Charles Flores?
11:45–15:08
5
What role does public perception play in wrongful convictions?
15:08–17:29
6
What is the significance of forensic hypnosis in wrongful convictions?
17:29–21:40
7
How can individuals help advocate for the wrongfully convicted?
21:40–24:56
8
What can we learn from the stories of those wrongfully convicted?
24:56–53:25
Speakers
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