Mercy for Sale: Inside Trump's Pardon Machine, with TrueAnon's Brace Belden
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Welcome to Pablo Torre Finds Out. I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is.
I feel like after you die, you should be pardoned. You know?
Like, after you... Right after this ad.
In general, like, what you do with your free time remains one of my favorite running subplots.
I like to go to places.
Well, okay. I think you were being here, by the way, Brace.
Are we recording?
Yeah, let's do it.
Yeah, yeah. Why not?
On Instagram over the holidays, what were you doing? I was in España. You were? I was, yeah. At an ancient church.
I went to a little midnight mass.
Oh, man. You were doing what? You were drinking from the chalice of Catholicism.
I was, except I'm assuming. No, I actually do have some experience with it. You were passionate of the Christing. Well, I have some experience with religion in the Philippines. God, that's a whole other f***ing episode. But I've told you this. I've said this a million times. My number one goal is to get into heaven. I don't care about being nice to people. I don't care about not stealing from people. I don't care about hurting people. I want to go to heaven. And I will figure out the best and easiest way to get there. So I'm looking into, I'm talking about Zoroastrians. I'm talking about, I'm flirting with Sufism. A little bit. Obviously, Catholicism, I understand that one seems like you can maybe buy it at some point.
But I'm trying to figure out what some of these other ones like Baptist is. What is that? We don't know. Or the snake ones. Or even what is going on because what if it's the Amish? And we don't know that. I have to go spend time with them. Smoke a little f***ing meth with those ones they let out of the farm when they're 16. I would love to sell a 16-year-old Amish boy meth. Get him tweaked. Not anything more than that. But it was because I'd sell it to him and I'd leave. I don't want to talk to him because I don't want to hear about eggs or whatever for eight hours. And I'm saying like, so I'm saying I'm exploring all the world's religion. It's just, and I don't mean any disrespect, Christianity is by far the easiest one.
And so I'm starting there.
So this is going to be an episode about the closest thing our country offers to divine intervention, to an American afterlife of sorts, for anybody who has committed federal crimes and or fraud of any size or shape, which, by the way, this administration does lately say they are very concerned about. Which is to say that this is going to be an episode about the presidential pardon. real-life get-out-of-jail-free card for those desperate to go from hell to heaven, which has helpfully been commodified more than ever before. The themes of mercy and salvation. Clemency. Clemency. I've been thinking about this stuff because last June, I had a fascinating in-person conversation with a source. An attorney I already knew through his work on various sports investigations.
And this attorney told me very casually that he had also been working with Trump World on pardon applications. Interesting. I should admit that you're not the first choice guest we have here today.
That's interesting to admit.
Yeah. I mean, I just, again, transparency is also a virtue.
It's okay. That Christmas Eve service changed me. You're forgiven.
Thank you.
But if you were wondering why our honored guest, Brace Belden, has returned to our studio without his true and non-co-host, Liz Franczak, his fellow Epstein expert, who also tends to make up for Brace's profound lack of sports knowledge, Liz is herself much like a Christian miracle with child.
Yes, yes. The angel came down to her and said, you will have John the Baptist. And she's pregnant with John the Baptist.
Which means that Brace, who often journeys through MAGA's social network, their rallies, their art shows, in person himself, will be calling upon his own research and experience in this episode. Although we should pause to acknowledge here that a president using the power of the pardon for personal reasons, as opposed to, you know, the public interest, did not start with Donald Trump.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–5:44
2
How does Donald Trump's pardon system operate?
5:44–11:23
3
What role does Brace Belden play in the episode?
11:23–11:50
4
How have presidential pardons been historically used?
11:50–27:16
5
What are the implications of pardoning famous figures like Daryl Strawberry?
27:16–56:07
Speakers
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